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And So She Goes
And So She Goes

Episode 36 · 11 months ago

36. Tori Petry, Detroit Lions Team Reporter and Host

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Seven years ago, Tori moved from Florida to Detroit to start a journey that would bring her so many different things-- cold weather, an amazing community of people, a plethora of stories to tell, and opportunities she will always be thankful for. As the Team Reporter and Host for the Detroit Lions, Tori's job requires her to tell stories about the team in a variety of ways, especially during a pandemic. In this episode, we talk about what she's learned about herself this year, traits we all should have to be successful in anything we do, and how she's helped the sisterhood of women in sports stay strong.

Conversations with real women who makesports happen, this is, and so she goes. Here's your host, Amanda, Borgeous, hello and welcome in if you arelistening to this on episode, Release Day Happy Last Day of Thosnda, twenty,so glad that's over. I had plenty of ups and downs this year, just likeeveryone else to start the year I got laid off from a dream job. I took a lotof time to think about what and who I wanted to be without this career, thatI've worked so hard for. I got engaged to my love, planned a wedding whilestill planning- I guess- and I've just learned a ton about my. Why and what Iwant for my future, and I realized I haven't done this yet so I willprobably do an episode soon on me and my background and why I started thisshow in the first place now, if you're listening to this and it's already twothousand and twenty one then Haloluia we made it, but before I can getexcited about a new year, I want to end o twusand and twenty on a high. This ismy final episode of the year that this show was born. So what better way toend the year than with a woman who is a shining light in the sports industryTory petre? Is the team reporter and host for the Detroit Lions? In ourinterview we talk about moving to Michigan from Florida, creating acommunity with other female reporters around the NFLM. What it's been likeworking this season during a pandemic treats, we should all have to besuccessful in anything and what she's learned about herself this year. Hereis my conversation with Detroit lions reporter Tory Petrie, hello, Tori. How are you I'm so good?Thank you so much for having me, of course, I'm so glad you could join me.I hope you had a wonderful week of Christmas and with the New Year comingup. I know you don't get a lot of time off these days because you're in thethick of football season, but I hope you were still able to enjoy some ofthat time. I definitely did good good, I'm so glad. I know it's such a crazy.I mean I don't even want to get started on this, but I'm in California- and youknow- We've been a lockdown, so you can't really do much around here. SoI'm just clinging to like every ounce of human interaction that I can getthese days. I know same here in Michigan Sanee same thing here, so Itotally feel you, but it's been good to be able to have a little bit of timewith loved ones that are around here in Michigan. But you know it's such aweird thing to work in sports in the holidays, because it's totally notnormal, I mean even Thanksgiving the lines play on Thanksgiving every singleyear, so my Thanksgiving looks a lot different than than most people's, butyou know it's really a privilege and it's been fun: Yeah Yeah. I love that.Well, let's go ahead and start from the beginning. I want listeners to heareverything about you and I feel like to get the best picture of you. We got tostart from where it began for you. So where did you grow up and how did youfall in love with sports? So I am from your homestate. The State of Floridagrew up in Ocala, which is North Central Florida, it's about an hour anda half north of Orlando. So it's not the beach. It's like the you know,inland part of Florida. That's where I grew up. I went to the University ofFlorida, but you know I was in high school and got accidentally placed in aTV productions. Class didn't even ask for the elective. It was just kind of Ijust got placed in. It ended up falling in love with broadcasting, but Ialready had a passion for sports. My family planned family vacations aroundvisiting MLB stadiums. You Know My dad...

...was really into NASCAR, so Sundays.After church we'd, you know go home and watch NASCAR, so you know I grew up ina very sport, centric house, and that was something that my family did. Youknow to bond and I was an athlete myself. I was a swimmer, so I didn'tquite, do you know coordination sports? I did more endurance athlete type ofstuff, but I you know was was a swimmer. I love the competition that came withathletics and then, when I got into broadcasting you know I tried out thewhole hard news thing. It was not for me and you know realized. I could do thisin sports and was like. Let's go. That sounds like a lot of fun and it hasbeen. It's been a wild ride. It's funny that you mentioned the news thing,because this it kind of happened like that with me as well. I feel like whenyou're in college. You want to set yourself up for success, no matter what,and so I was like. Oh, I might just start in local new, so I'm going to getan internship with the local news station and they make you, you know, doall of the hard news packages and it's it's not the same as sports. It's justnot! No! It's definitely not. I mean T, you know at Florida, you have to workat the local TV station as part of kind of your course work, and you knowyou're covering just different local events, county commission meetings. Youknow, theft, local crime and it just it just wasn't doing it. For me, Icouldn't get into the local politics and all that kind of thing you know youdo love the fast paced atmosphere of a news room, but then, when you realizeyou can have that in sports, it's like hat. That sounds like a lot more myce,peed totally and there's more personality and sparts yeah o just fun,and we can get into that as well. So what was your first job out of college? So when I was in college, I did all kinds of things on the sideoutside of the classroom, I was hosting a local lifestyle show in my hometownof Ocala. So basically like those lifestyle, magazines that are likepeople places and events, it was a TV show version of that. So I was hostingthat while I was still in school- and I was also working inturning at a localradio station, where I was covering motor sports and on the weekends I wasdriving out to dirt track races and pit reporting at these dirt track races andhosting a motor sports radio show on the radio on Saturdays, and I wasdriving all over the place to do all these kinds of things. So when Igraduated, I continued doing those things because I did not have abroadcast fulltime job lined up. You know that was kind of a scary part ofgraduating people like Oh. What are you going to do after school and I was likeI mean I want to go in broadcasting, but I don't have something lined up.I'm just kind of piecing together. These different jobs to you know makeends meet, and I was you know, working for my dad a little bit as well doingsocial media marketing. So it's just doing all kinds of different things,something to keep my hand in sports, something to keep my hand inbroadcasting something to actually pay the bills, and you know a couple monthslater I saw the lions job posting online and ended up applying, for itdidn't know a single person in Michigan. They flew me up for an audition and youknow theyre. The rest is history. Wow I didn't realize that was your first o Imean. I know you did a Gazillian things, but like technically your first job outof college right, no exactly yeah it was it was I graduated in May andstarted with the lines beginning of August. Do you remember what youraudition was like? I always like asking audition stories because ie likethey're all different? Yes totally, so I flew up to cover acommunity event, but I think it actually. It worked out because it showed that Icould handle flexibility and I could be flexible and the community event didn'texactly go as planned. We kind of had to switch plans a little bit on the flyand I was prepared to do a story on one thing and the story that I had to dolike turn it in a day fly home. The same day was a totally different storythan what they were like. Okay, you know this is what we're going to have.You come up and do, but it was just because the day that I happened to bethere, things just ended up playing out...

...a little bit differently and I think itactually worked in my favor, because I was able to just go with the flow andcover what actually did happen and create a story from that, and you knoww at it just worked out, and you know I really loved the opportunity. I love the job.I didn't even think twice about moving all the way to Michigan. It was justlike yeah, let's go, this sounds like a really cool job, I'm so down, and youknow the same day I flew back home and then you know had to wait like a weekor so to hear back, and I think I got the call with the job offer on a Mondayand by Friday I had moved and left Florida for good, like it all happenedso fast. It always happens so fast. I feel like every move. I've ever madewas a two week thing. It was e h, audition or interview get the job. Twoweeks later, you have to drive across the country or up north or wherever andFindini like it's so fast. It really is wild and you're like. Oh, my wholeentire life is changing, but you don't even have time to process it becauseyou have at deel with all the logistics of finding a new place to live andpacking up all your things. But at the time I was just, I did not care one bit.I was so pumped to be able, to you, know, start my career working in sportsand have this really cool opportunity working for a team which was reallywhat I had envisioned myself doing out of college and to get this opportunitywith just a dream. I love that you brought up your story about how you hadto change like this. The your audition was not what you thought it was goingto be, and I think for people that I've never been in broadcasting or been injournalism at all. That's something that happens all the time and I feel like it's. Weknow it's a trait that we need, but I feel like people that are watching youor any other reporter. I think everyone thinks it's scripted always or theythink that, like everything is going perfectly and that's why we're so goodat our jobs, but that rare it rarly happens that way, it's never perfect.Oh absolutely, not thinking on your feet is one of the most crucialqualities you can have in this career. One of the things that I feel likereally prepared me in that way was that I did pageants in college, and I knowthat sounds you know really random and unconnected to broadcasting, butactually a lot of girls. Ind Broadcasting have a background in that,because it is something that you have to do. You have to be able to think onyour feet. You get asked questions on stage and often they're on difficulttopics you have to do it go through a whole interview process and thenoutside of that you're also going around in the community and speaking afdifferent community events, and you know using your title to do good in thecommunity and there was a lot of public speaking and thinking on my feet and Ifeel like that. Helped prepare me as well. That's so true, I never got intopageants, but I've heard very similar things about that and itmakes sense if you've ever watched a competition like that you're alwaysgetting asked random questions and you've got to come up with a goodanswer right on the spot. So I know there's like a really similar wintersituation, but between Florida and Detroit. So how has that O ave youtransition? It's so similar? There was no transition at all, just sozy,exactly the same as winter in Florida. No, it was the first year I moved herewas like one of the worst Michigan winters. So it was like baptism by fireexcept baptism by snow, and I and I had a complete panic attack. The first timeI had to drive in snow- and I was on my way to work that morning and I remembergetting there and going in my boss's office and being like. I can't do this.I just can't do this and you know it was an adjustment. NowI can drive in the snow. Don't worry guys, I still hate it. I hate it, butyou have sow tires snow at least yeah. You figure yeah, you get snow tires.That's the king is to get the snow tires, but it was definitely anadjustment but, like I said you know, I moved in August and I didn't thinktwice about any of the culture shock or anything. I was just like: Let's go,this is a really cool job and then I got here and I was like holy how I'maway from everyone that I know I have...

...no friends here. I don't know anyone. Iliterally knew zero people in the state of Michigan. When I moved here and itwas overwhelming, it was really hard to do at first those first couple ofmonths and you know you're starting a new job and you feel, like you, don'tknow what you're doing and you're trying to you know, get the hang of itand do a good job at it. Meanwhile, you don't have a support system around youand it's wild. So you know those first couple months here were hard and thenyou had winter. On top of that- and I know that sounds you know totally softfor people who have dealt with winner, their whole lives, but for me afloridian, it was very different. Now I feel like I'm a season to michigandernow, because I'm on my like seventh winter here, but at first it wasdefinitely an adjustment yeah, absolutely Florida any place in thesouth. Does not properly prepare you to live anywhere cold? I experienced thatliving in New York. It's the same thing and you just kind of do it, but I agreewith you when you move somewhere for a job you, you know you're so focused onon doing your job and being great at your job and there's so much that goesinto broadcasting as a whole and there's so much. You have to knowyou're learning a new team, but aside from that you're traveling. So much too,that like there's not enough, there's not a lot of time for you to form acommunity Freeu to meet people for you to get that sofpos support system thatyou said that you didn't have, because you were in a new place. How did youfigure out how to balance that? Because that's not it's not an easy thing to doand it takes time. So you do have to have patients when it comes to thatyeah absolutely and it did take time. It was probably six. Eight monthsbefore I started to really feel like. I had friends here and I had a community,so you know I start in August, which is the middle of training camp and thenyou dive right into the season and, like you said, you know, I'm travelingwith the team every weekend, so I'm not home on weekends and a big part of mylife is my faith and you know going to church and I wasn't able to find achurch community because I'm working on Sundays right. So I can't go to church.I can't try all different churches in the area or meet people in that way. Sothat part was really hard and you know after football season ended and Istarted to get to try churches around in the area and start to meet peopleand start joining small groups, and you know young adults, ministry and thingslike that. That was when I started to kind of finally feel at home, but thosefirst few months were basically just putting my head down and and workingfor six months and you know frequent calls home and you know watching movies,on Netflix Wis, my best friend back home things like that. Before I finallywas able to kind of make Michigan feel like home, and you know of course,seven years- and now I love my community here. I know some amazingpeople. There are great people here in Michigan and I'm so glad you know thatI was able to find that here, because it's really been awesome for me, butanother part of that community that I found really that first year was in reaching out to other women who weredoing what I was doing with other teams, and I tracked them down when I would,when we would play on the road. I would look them up. I'd go on the teamwebsite, I'd see if they had a team reporter. I would try and piecetogether what her email might be, and I would rea renail her and be like hey. Idon't know if you know me, but I'm Tory, I'm from the Lions we're going to be intown this week and I love to meet you Blah Blah Blah and I try to meet themwhenever we were on the road that first year and then eventually the combinecame around in February and we started I emailed everybody that I had reachedout to throughout the course of the year, and I just put them all on oneemail and I was like hi guys. Some of you know each other. Some of you don't.I was wondering if you guys wanted to all go to dinner when we were at thecombine, and that was really the start of a really cool friendship that hasblossomed so much since then. It's now like a twenty five person, big groupchat of girls who work across the NFL in like a team reporter role, and thathas been really cool and that started that first year, especially because Ijust didn't know anyone, and that was the way of reaching out to get to knowpeople. That's the coolest thing.

Honestly. I felt something similar whenI was working in hockey and I would do exactly what you would do and I wouldreach out and cab dinner and things like that, and I think that's such anunderrated part of that job, whether you're on the team side or not. I thinkthe lot of people assume women in your role or Rill like yours, feels likethey're in competition with another woman on another team, and it's justnot true like we're all in this together, and I love that even in yourfirst year you had the maturity to realize that, because I don't think Iwas that mature C, then, when I you know just left to college, you knowknowing that it was a sisterhood now, but I think that that's amazing thatyou were able to not only find that for yourself but create it for others,because a lot of times it just takes one person like you to set the stageand be like. Oh, we are all in this together and then everyone comestoether because of that so Bralo. I like that. Well, thank you. I mean Ihave benefited from it just as much because it's been such an awesomecommunity for me to have, and for me to have these girls in my corner- and youknow this. This group JAT is like a legit thing. It's called W. We LoveFood and football, and it's you know twenty five girls who have eitherworked in the NFL in a team reporter role and have since gone on to do otherthings or who you know currently work in that role and it's the mostsupportive group of women I've ever been around and any girl at any timecan shoot a message in that group chat and say: Hey, I'm having a hard timewith this or like hey. I have a question about this, or even somethingas simple as what are you guys doing for lashes, because I got to figure out.You know what I'm going to do with these. These fake lives, like I can'K,get Tis to look like you know just something as simple as that, but youknow there's so much more deep conversations that happen in there aswell like dealing with long distance relationships, and you know dealingwith different things that work that we all have to deal with. It are unique tobeing in a team reporter role. No, you know it's just been so cool to havethat support system and I have like, I said, benefited from it as much asanyone and that's really been one of my biggest highlights of working as a team.Reporter is just the community that I have found with other women who do asimilar job. I mean it just is so cool to see that those women can supporteach other and not feel like they are in competition. I had someone who youknow works in the business and who has been in it for a really long time. Tellme you know what we're not in competition with each other as womenthere's room for all of us at the table, because if you know this girl gets ajob and she's right for this job. I can't be jealous that she got this joband I didn't because there was something about her and her uniquepersonality and things that are unique to hear that made her write for thisjob. My unique personality and, what's unique to me, is right for a differentjob, and you know we can't be in competition in that way and that justput me at so much peace with you know what this works so much better when weare supporting and encouraging each other, rather than feeling like we'rein competition for a very limited number of roles. Yeah absolutely. Ijust realized that some people might not fully understand the role of a teamreporter. So can you just give us a brief synopsis of Your Job? Yes, sobasically, I am a utility player for the team website. Soyeahso Thatmans, Iam the sideline reporter for preseason games. That means I do interviews withplayers and coaches on the website during the week of Game Week. Thatmeans I host pream post game shows whether in the stadium or streaming onour social channels on game days in t offseason, I traveled to the combine tothe owners meetings, the draft you know all that kind of stuff, and I coverevery facet of the team every step of...

...the way. So you know it looks like alot of different things. You could call me a host a sideline reporter featurereporter. You know, there's so many different words for what it could be,but when you're a team reporter, you play a lot of different roles- you're,not just one singular type of of reporter, because you basically fillevery on camera role for the organization. So it's a really cool joband that you get to get your feet wet and all kinds of different things youdon't just get to do. One thing every single day looks different, so one dayI might be, you know interviewing an alumni for a package that we do on ourteam website and then the next week, I'm out with a player and his wifecovering a new business that they started. And then you know the nextweek, I'm on the sidelines for a preseason game. So it looks like a lotof different things, but it's really cool because you are embedded with theteam. So oftentimes you get access to do really cool things like you know,player, exclusives and features, and you help fans get to know who playersare as people and that's one of my favorite parts of the job is being ableto use my access and who I am as a person to help a player open up to bewho he is as a person, so fans get to see who he is and not just kind of therobotic. You know cliche media presente that we often see yeah. Definitely when I was a teamreporter I felt like I was a bridge. I bridged the gap between fans andplayers and the had changed all the time and that's what's fun about it.Right every day is different, but you're still that bridge fans go to youfor the content that they want to learn more about their favorite players. Yeah,that's the perfect way to describe it. So what has this season been like foryou and the team dealing with covid? I'm sure there's more than one wordyouuse to describe this season, but one of them is different. I would imagineyeah different bizarre is probably my favorite Min. It really has just beenso strange. I came back from a hiking trip in March and it was literally theweek the NBA shut down, and it was just like coming back to this weirdlandscape of everything had changed and I never went back into the office afterthat. Vacation basically- and you know, we worked remotely- We covered freeagency remotely. We did zoom and online interviews with all of the new freeagents so guys who were coming to join this team. I haven't even met them inperson because every single thing has been. You know virtual and I ard,because there's just a different connection that you make with people inperson- and you know part of our job- is to be able to connect and get toknow people and make them feel comfortable with us, and that is somuch harder to do virtually. And so you know that's what this entire year hasbeen. We had a little bit of a brief ability to do things in person andtraining camp things. You know, Ahad restrictions had been kind of put inplace, they'd created a plan and we were just broadcasting from outside andyou know and Training Camp Ind August an Michigan. You can do that, so wewere just doing all of our shows from the practice field and that was reallycool to be able to. After all those months of being out of the building tofinally be back and be able to be on site and be covering training camp inperson. But then, of course, things start to change when the season startedand they kind of tightened up protocols- and I was doinga little bit of stuff in the building getting tested weekly, which was just abizarre situation in en of itself. But then, even as the holidays came aroundand cases started going up, they changed protocols yet again and I wentback to working from home. So all of myself became virtual again, so it hasjust been the most bizarre season. Usually I would travel all offseasonlong to all kinds of different events. Usually I would travel with the team orat least meet the team in whatever city that they were traveling to, and thisyear I haven't traveled. I have not...

...left Michigan since that trip in March. Actually I've driven places, but I havenot flown anywhere, which is just been bizarre right because you know I'm soused to being on a plane half of my life. So that part has been reallystrange because I really enjoy the travel aspect of my job and I havemissed not being able to do that this season. But I feel like we've, you know,done a good job of trying to pivot and still create content that interests andengages fans, even though we don't have the same sort of access that we usuallydo yeah I mean I remember in the summer we didn't even know if there would bean NFL season like one day we probably wouldn't and then and the next day theywere like now we're optimistic and it just it changed every single day. SoI'm just glad that they've figured out how to make it work, and you knowobviously you've been able to do as much as possible, even if it's fromhome, but I feel like t the good thing is fans have this quench for content,even more so than they have in the past, because, like this is all we have? IsSports fans right now right like we're home, we need tis content. So did youfeel not an extra sense of pressure but like just that extra sense of likepeople need this? What can I give to them? Even though there's only so muchI can do yeah absolutely. I think the best example would probably be ourdraft coverage because you know that was still when a lot of states hadn't lifted. You knowany sort of lockdown orders, people still hadn't gotten to really leavetheir house as much at all and all of the summer sports were canceled. Stillat that point there were no other sports going on. You know, baseballhadn't started back up yet the NBA bubble, hadn't started, nothing wasgoing on and the NFL draft was happening there at the end of April,and usually I would fly to the whole city. It was supposed to be in Vegas.It was going to be this huge production and that totally changed and we had topivot, but we still wanted to create a really cool draft experience for ourfans, because we had the number three pick in the draft and that's a reallyhigh valuable pick where you usually n w get to get a really cool player and alot of fans were really excited about it, and so we wanted to make thatunique, and so what we did was we had a virtual draft party, which wasessentially a draft preview show- and you know this was something that wehadn't. You know at this point we've done tons of remote live shows, so Ifeel like we're well seasoned at it. But at that point in time we had it andwe went through so much to try and figure out the logistics of how thiswould work and how we would connect and how we would get guests and and how wewere going to do it. And we worked so hard on that draft show and draftweekend turned out to be a really really cool experience, even though itlooked totally different than what we were planning for and that whateverwhat everyone thought it would be, because all eyes were on the NFL thatweekend. That was the only thing that was going on, and so it was really coolto be a part of that and to be able to. You know, provide fans with some reliefduring that time and provide them with something to be excited about, and Iwill definitely always cherish being able to be a part of that really weird,two thousand and twenty draft from home, really weird, really special, but alsojust really weird. Yes, but also this summer. Something else happened whichis amazing for you, you one and Emmy, which is awesome, and I feel like thatcame out of time when others were just like trying to figure out quarantinelife and like what is this new, like covid world we're living in and thenyou win a freaking Emmy. How awesome is that it was. It was so cool and thankyou so much. I really appreciate that it was such a humbling, excitingexperience. I have entered into the MS here. You know for the past. I don'tmaybe four years and I've been nominated several times, but never hadwon, Theemi and listen. I was just excited to be nominated. There's a lotof really great reporters here in the...

Detroit area, and you know it was justreally cool to even be nominated and my boyfriend and I had gone to the EMIS inperson. You know the last two years and you know gotten all dressed up, and youknow I wore that first year that I got nominated, I wore my old pageant drefs.So it'as, like the dress of I ware in Cogen, so I was like I'm goin no fitback into this dress and I'm wearing it to my first ENI ceremoniy. Of course Ididn't win, which I had no issues with. It was just cool to be nominated, andyou know so. We had had that tradition of you know getting really dressed upgoing to the Ms. Actually, the MAS were one of our first dates ever, which isreally greally nr yeah. I know that was like we'd been dating for, like maybe aweek, and I was like hey. I have this thing in a month for work. Do you wantto come with meoh my Gosh Yeah Yeah Tei know so he came with me to the to myfirst nomination for the Emmes, and then you know this last year was mythird and there was no physical ceremony right.Everything was virtual, so it was just like a live stream on youtube and you,you know just tuned in watch the live stream, so we're at home. Making Tacoslike we just had plane to hang out and watch, and you know usually my categorythat I was nominated for, doesn't come up until later in the night, but it wasone of the first fow categories that they announced and so we're just likestarting to get dinner, ready and all of a sudden like they announced thecategory, and so we run into the living room and they end up announcing that Iwon the Ma and it was like wait. What reallywait was so cool, even though itwasn't an imperson ceremony and we had had so much fun, Gig, dressed up andgoing to the ceremonies in the previous years. It's like, of course, the yearthat I actually wantd was weird that were doing it from home, but thatdidn't make it any less special because it was just so so cool and such anhonor. And he like made me. He took a video. He Lia Meda, of my likeacceptance, speech, anywayeven, there'snooher yeah, and so then youknow we, you know, dining was outside and everything. So we went out to thelittle downtown area that I live in and went and celebrated, and it was justsuch a cool night and such an honor. So that was definitely a highlight of twothousand and twenty, I will say Twentytd Almad. At least it had that.So do you have your Emmy, or do you have to wait for it to get to you? IDoi have no. I haven't O. Yes, I actually did a little countdown of youknow highlights of two thousand and twenty like leading up to the New Yearon Instagram, so I took a little photo of it so cute, that's so fun. Where doyou keep it? It's actually in my living room, it's just like such a such anexciting thing. I'm sure, like later on in my career I'll, be like okay this's,like a little weird get out of the living room, his so fun, I'm Gong to put Ino myliving room, that's so cool Wele! Congratulations! I'm glad that you havethat from this year. I know that we have so many things to be thankful for,but just I don't know sometimes little things like that actually do give us alittle boost of confence and help us to keep going. So that being said, what doyou think is a trait or maybe two or a few? However, many you want a list thatyou think we should have if we want to be successful in whatever we do, ohgoodness. Well, I think, first and foremost, it's work ethic right. Youhave to know what you want to do and you have to beable to work for it and be willing to work for it, because there are a lot oflonely and difficult days where you're like. Is this really worth it? Am Ireally you know going to see the payoff for this, and sometimes you don't for areally really long time and you just keep grinding and you just keepgrinding, and you know eventually, eventually things break, but I think alot of people get wor out and decide that it just isn't for themanymore before they do. Finally get to that point. Where things break, and soI think that that being able to have...

...that work ethic to push through thosethings, is really really important, and I think just also having a vision ofwhat you want to do and the flexibility for it to change. So you know, as we've gone through our careers andI'm sure you could relate to this as well goals and where you're at ind lifechanges and what you want to do and what you want to focus on changes. Sowhen I first came into sports, I really wanted to you know I was all about girl power. Ireally wanted to do all these things that, like girls hadn't done before,and you know I started and was playing women's football because I was like youknow what I'm going to learn: How to do this better than you know I ever couldbefore so. The best way to know how to talk about football is to play it. So Iwent and joined a women's tackle football team and learning the Ouof Ono,those so much yeah. We E ACTE NOS on the game was like the most importantthing to me at that time, and you know, as my career has changed, I have reallyenjoyed the more storytelling aspect of it, so your priorities change. So it'sbeing able to have a vision of your. Why and what what is important to youand then then being willing for that to change over time and to redefine itover time. So I think that that is really important quality, as well asfar as work ethic and then knowing exactly why you're doing it and whatyou're doing it, and this isn't really a personal quality but having a supportsystem around you is so important as well, whether it be you know that groupof girls, that are the the team reporter girls who support each other,like that's a really cool community, that we have, that we've been able tobuild up over the years or it's family or it's you know a friend group or aBible study, like all of those things, have been really important for me atdifferent points in time in my career, so I think, being able to build asupport system around you help to get you through some of the hard times aswell. Yeah. Absolutely. I love your mention of flexibility and pivoting,because I feel, like a lot of us, have had to do that this year, whether ithappened this year or it happened a few years ago for someone or it's going tohappen soon. You know we all reach a point where maybe things didn't go asplanned, and that doesn't mean that you have failed or that you have to go backand figure something else out. I think, if you have an open mind to succeed inother ways, you can still be successful. It just might look different than whatyou originally thought. Absolutely. I think someone told me recently that waslike you know you don't have to consider it the death of a dream, it'sthe birth of a new dream. You know when, when you start to pivot- and it's likeokay, that was just so impactful for me, because it's like you're not letting goand like putting something to death and saying, like I never achieve this. It'ssaying you know what I have a different dream and it's going to change andmaybe that dream will change again later on, but I'm still going to youknow pursue it as hard as I can as long as I still feel like. That is where I'mcalled to be absolutely. I think I need to like gowrite that on my mirror and lipsnick or something l, hats, like that's huge,that's such a big realization for me in particular, but Ithink for a lot of people yeah horry. This is my last episode of Two Thousandand twenty, which is very crazy to think about so really quickly before Ilet you go. What did you learn about yourself this year? It can be somethingsilly. It can be something that, like maybe, is only meaningful to you andnot to us or could be a huge thing, but I feel like this was a year whereeveryone, I know you still worked your butt off, but I feel like we still hadmoments to just sit and be like hmm. Who Am I like? What do I want, likeeveryone kind of had this like reflection season this year? I feellike yeah absolutely, and that is such a good question and I love doingreflective things around the new year like I am such a journal person and Ilike sit down, and you know, try to work all those things out and do mylike. Okay, what Dif I learn this year. What do I want to achieve next year? Ihaven't sat down to do that quite yet, so you're giving me a Litano, it's allgood. I love this question. I really do.

I think that for me I learned thatsomething that was important for me throughout this year was to have acreative outlet and it looked different at different points in the year,because you know during the draft, the creativeoutlet was figuring out. What draft coverage looked like in a totallydifferent world and doing it totally different than how he d we had done itbefore and then in the summer, when, usually, I would be able to go and goout on all these cool shoots with players and cover things about theirpersonal lives, and you know their endeavors outside of football. I wasn'table to do that. We didn't have that kind of access, so my creative outletlooked a little bit different than being in my workfield. It wasredecorating my apartment and I did this whole project WHERH. You knowremodeled everything and got to do. Do my whole apartment, exactly how Iwanted it to, and so that was really fun. You know- and I just kind ofrealized, that about myself this year is that I thrive when I have adventureand something to be creative about now, I'm not like an an artist or musicianor anything like that. So it's not that kind of creativity, it's just somethingthat challenges me and that I thrive in and sometimes our you know, situations this year have notallowed for that in the traditional conventional sense. So it's kind ofbeen okay. What can I do to create that outlet? For myself and like I said,sometimes it's been in a work sinse and sometimes it has been in a totally notwork related since at all, but I have learned that that is where I thrive andso being able to try and create those kinds of environments for myself hasbeen really important even any year where things have just been so bizarre.So Bizarre, okay, last question: Tory: Can you leave us with a woman in sportswho inspires you and it's okay? If you say more than one because I know we allhave a gosilion which is great okay. So, let's see I did listen to some ef of your otherpodcast. I knew this question was coming. You knew is good. I did so IIthought about it, a little bit okay, so you know one of my number one answersfor this question. All the time is Sam Ponder. I just think that her careerpath has been really cool. I loved everything she did when she was onCollege Gameday, like I love college football and just being able to be inthat atmosphere. Every week was so cool, but then to do it when she still had afamily and to you know, start a family doing it that way and then to pivotonce she had her family and to do the same career. But in a different aspect.You know it's been really cool and she's, also a woman of faith, and Ireally respect that. She is able to be open about that, and you know talkabout that openly. I've just always really respected thatthat aspect of her career, so that's definitely a name that sticks out forme, Beth Moens, and what she has done asfar as trail blazing and the world of the NFL being a woman calling games inthe NFL she's awesome I've gotten to meet her a couple of times. I just haveso much respect for best Moens, but I will say my number one growth of girlsthat inspire me is that group chat that I keep bringing up because they havejust been it's just been so cool to see their careers unfold and to sav theircreativity and how they have. You know used the different circumstances thatwe found ourselves in and we're all in similar situations, because we all workfor NFL teams right, and so it's been so cool to be inspired by them andseeing what they're doing and saying okay, how can I adapt that and make itwork for what I'm doing here? You know I just am always inspired bythat group of women and I'll just inspired by the way they support eachother, because I think we need more of that in this world yeah, and I lovethat you inspire each other privately not to get into this now, but I thinksometimes it almost becomes a trend to comment on people's instagrams to likeact like you're, supporting and, like...

...you love each other and everyone, and,like that's, really nice like of course, we all love public comments, but Ithink it means more when it's in private and no one else can see howyou're supporting that other person. I think that that especially these daysin this public world that we live in, that speaks volumes Tori. Thank you soso much for joining me. Congrat on all of your success in this bizarre year,it is almost over I'm so glad that you have been able to accomplish somethings this year, despite what's been going on, and I'm so excited to seewhat O thwousand a twenty one has in store for you and for all of us reallyso cheers to a happy and healthy, two thousand and twenty one. Yes cheers toa much better, two thousand and twenty one than we had two thousand and twenty.Hopefully that's on the way for all of us. I mean dot. Thank you so much forhaving me this was so fun. I love having conversations with other womenand Sports, and you know what you are doing and with your podtast, and youknow the way that you have made it work for you this year and just done reallycool things and a adverse situation has been inspiring to me as well. So thankyou. What a gem I truly loved hearing aboutorise tribe of women, that she's brought together to encourage eachother and lift each other up. We all need more of that. Hey! Maybe I'llstart. My Own Group of women, like me, who got laid off in two thousand andtwenty and started a podcast. Actually, it's not a terrible idea. If you'd liketo keep up with Tory's life, you can follow her on social, at sports, Torywith an eye on Insta and also on twitter, and you can follow along withme an this show at, and so she goes pod thanks for listening.

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