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And So She Goes
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Episode 31 · 11 months ago

31. Olivia Landis, Team Reporter and Podcast Host, New York Jets

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When Olivia Landis moved from her home state of Colorado to the Northeast to become the Team Reporter for the New York Jets four years ago, she didn't imagine she would get to use her platform in such an impactful way. Recently, as part of the team's in-house production crew, Olivia has launched a podcast about women in sports. She produces and hosts the show, talking with big-name women in the industry. She joined me to talk about her career so far, what her hope is for her podcast, and the importance of focusing on the here and now (something I know I needed to hear).

Conversations with real women who makesports happen, this is, and so she goes. Here's your host, Amanda, Borgeous, hello and welcome in if you're newaround here hi I'm Amanda Borgeous, and this is a show all about women insports broadcasters, CEOS athletes, coaches, entrepreneurs and everyone inbetween my hope, for these conversations is to shine a light oninspiring work that is being done in this industry by women. So that beingsaid, my guest today is Olivia Landis. She is the team reporter for the NewYork jets and she also hosts a podcast about women in sports called the kneeor her podcast. We talk about her career so far, what she's learned fromlaunching her own show, alongside her other reporting duties for the team andso much more so, let's jump right in here is my conversation with New Yorkjets, team reporter and podcast host Olivia Landus, Hello Olivia. How are you I'm doinggood Manda? Thank you so much for having me, of course, I'm so excited tohave you on. There is a lot to get into it's Wenny. We were just talking abouthow both of our dogs are in the room, so we're hoping that they behave justas moms hope that their kids behave, ONA, an importantal or recording, sohere's to both of our dogs being cute and quiet. Of course, thinking of thedevil. He came right up to me for attention literally immediately. It'slike he knows all right, Livia, let's start with alittle rewind, so tell us where you grew up and how you fell in love withsports. So I grew up in Plublo Colorado and itis a city that is two hours south of dever. I always have to profase it withthat, because nobody knows where Boblo is but yeah. I grew up in southernColorado and I honestly I started playing sports from a very, very youngage from when I was about in second or third grade. I started playing sportsand growing up. I always wanted to be on TV. It was just an absolute dream ofmine. Since I was little I would make my own little movies. I would like show them to my family. I justalways wanted to be on TV and when I got into sports and I played a lot ofsports, I played four sports in high school. I started to realize that therewas a way for me to combine my love of sports and my lovefor television. So that's what I decided that I want to get into sportsbroadcast and I just kind of went from there. So what was your first job aftercollege? So I went to Colorado state and that's where I majored in broadcastjournalism and I minored in music stage and sports production. Ind Honestly Imean I PLA applied to so many jobs out of college. I applied, Oh, my goodness, probably to over sixty or seventy jobs, and I only gotwow yeah, so crazy right. I gotto call back from two one of thembeing the New York jets and one of them being a smaller television marketstation in Texas. So I interviewed with both of them and I ended up getting thejob with the New York juds just three months out of college, so I've beenhere ever since wow, that's impressive! Typically, you know I remember when Iwas starting out in college. Everyone tells you you know you have to move toa super small town to work at a really local news station to kind of get yourexperience and then move up the ranks, and I had a similar experience where Ididn't really have to go that route,...

...and so that's amazing that you appliedto so many but the one door that o well. There were two doors, but the one doorthat opened yeah obviously was the one that was meant to be. Can't you take usback. Do you remember your audition for the job? I love hearing auditionstories yeah, it's so, first of all, I you're so right like itpretty much. People will just pound that into your head e. When yougraduate there like you, have to go to a smaller market. You have to do this,which is amazing for some people. Some people have to take that step not haveto, but some people take that step and it ends up being absolutely incrediblefor them. But you know I just ended up taking a different route in so firstthey started off. With I heard back from them, I heard back from their PRdepartment. Excuse me their HR department and they were likely with.We would love to have a facetime interview with you and I was so excited,so this was probably back in late May or early June. I had a facetime calland I interviewed with at the time four people a couple producers, the executive producer and a couple ofother people, and I thought it went really well. You know I thought Italked to them for almost two hours. Talk to four different people had agreat conversations and I left the call feeling really confident, but then Icidn hear back from them for about two or three weeks. So I started to kind ofpanic and then out of you know, I thought Ididn't get the job. I didn't think I got the job so kind of just started,moving on kept applying more jobs, and then I got I got an email and was like hey.We would love to fly you out here for an interview in person, and, Oh, mygoodness I just I was so incredibly excited, so I ended up flying out thereand the interview just went incredible. Imet so many amazing people just spent all day there. I literallyEMEMBER eating lunch. I had so many like interviews and so many people totalk to that. I was eating lunch wall in one of my interviews, so it ended upgoing fantastic and I heard back from them alittle while later offering me the job, that's amazing and so you're enteringyour fourth season, or this is your fourth season yeah. This is my fourthseason awesome. What sort of advice do you have for people who are sort ofwaiting for their chance to prove that they can succeed at their dream job? Imean it's. Sometimes it's as sad as it sound it's not enough to just want todo something like sometimes you know, you have to wait for the right time forthe right door to open, and that sounds so cheesy, but it's true. No, itdoesn't sound chazy at all honestly and you're completely righot a lot of it,there's so much that goes into getting the right opportunity for yourself. Ithink, first of all, looking back at my experience and what has gotten me towhere I'm at today. The biggest thing I always tell people is that my workethic was just really unmatched in college. I just I worked so incredibly hard to you know to be my Matt today, like Iworked for our local television station on campus, I was the sports producerand I started out as just like inturning with them and kind of justdoing stuff for free, and then I ended up working all the way up to the sportsproducer. You know I applied for internships. I was constantly talkingto and asking people like in broadcast, and I was alwaysbugging people for advice for them to look at my real them to help. You knowguide me any direction, so I was that annoying college student. You know thatwas always asking people for for their thoughts and opinions, but at the endof the day, what it really came down to was just how hard I worked I put in theextra time. I stayed the extra few...

...minutes at work. I volunteered forthings that I knew I didn't necessarily want to do, and you know hard work isjust not something you can teach know you can teach talent, but you reallycan't teach someone to have a hard work ethic. So I would say that if I were to give any piece of advice,I would just tell people who want to achieve their dreams. You just have toput in the effort you have to put in the work and it sounds so cliche, butit really is true. There's if you don't put in the work just sitting therewanting it, it's not going to fall on your lap, so you have to go the extramile. You have to talk to the people. You have to do the things you might necessarily notwant to do in the moment that will set you up for the opportunity. Yeah.That's great advice: It's true, you do have to put the work in. You have tofind a way to separate yourself, really, no matter what industry you're in,because you're, not the only person that wants that job, and so you need toshow them why you should get that job and not someone else. One part ofworking in sports is sort of having this mindset of adaptingand being okay with moving. So I have always been someone. I grew up inFlorida and I you know I had a great childhood andmy parents still live in the house that I grew up in. I couldn't wait to getout. I knew I wanted to move away, didn't know where I just knew that Iwas ready to move for work and I did I've bounced around quite a bit, but ifyou aren't prepared to move away from home, it's a scary world working insports because you, you sort of, have to be willing to do that. Oh yeahthousand percent. I mean that is really one of the big things in the sportsbroadcast business. You have to be willing to relocate. You have to bewilling to travel, you have to be willing to go to new places, but for mepersonally I mean I can't speak for everyone, because some people don'tenjoy that. But for me I've always loved to travel. I've always loved tobe in new places to meet new people have new opportunities. That's alwaysreally been the root of who I am so for me thatwasn't really a hard adjustment. When I had to get up and move from Colorado tothe east coast, it wasn't really a hard adjustment forme because I was so excited to be somewhere new and meet new people andjust have this opportunity. so that necessarily wasn't hard for me, butyou're right. I mean, if you're not prepared for the travel or not preparedfor having to relocate, or you know just so much suddenness, alsoflexibility and schedule. You know about people like when it comes tosports. There's not really a schedule. You can work until Onein them one nightduring a game because it goes late or it could be different another night, soflexibility is so key in the sporth broadcast world. Absolutely do you livein New York or New Jersey. I live in New Jersey, okay, yeah, it's so funnylike working for a New York sports team. You can have so many differentexperiences because I worked for New York team and I lived in the city andyou also work for a New York team and you live in New Jersey just becausethat's where this stadium is but yeah, it's really funny and they'recompletely different experiences, so I'm hoping that you've adjusted toliving in the northeast so far, you've had you have a few years under yourbelt. Now Yeah, I mean honestly a lot of people. Tell me like. Oh, it'sgoing to be a really big culture shock when you move from Colorado to the eastcoast, because people are just so different, which is true. You knowpeople are very different, but you get that anywhere. You Go of course. So what I liked most about the east coast-and I still like- is that it's very fast paced. You know it's very go, gogo which is kind of how I already was so yeah, for so I've definitely beenable to adjust, but it wasn't, it wasn't as bad as peopletried to make it make it. Sound people...

...tried to make it sound like the EastCoast was rough and rugged, and people were just so hardcorn and, like Iactually like it out here, I like the people out here. Well, it's funny. Yousay that I think it depends on where you are so we don't need to get intothis completely, but living in the city is an experience that no one can reallyprepare you for, like they can tell you. You know you have to learn the subwaysystem. You know no one's going to hold the door for you. You have to beassertive you're going to have all these experiences before you even getto work because of your commute like there are so many things living reallyin any city, but a New York City in particular that you you adapt to,because it's not like anything else and not everyone is cut out for it. I wasthere for two years and I felt like I live there for twelve, because youexperienced SOMUC, yeah and New Jersey is similar. I've visited a few citiesin New Jersey, but anyway you brought up. We've been talking a lot aboutadjustment, and this season, I feel like, has been quite the adjustment,not only for you, but for players and for coaches dealing with covid andfiguring out how to move forward. How to play being around the team must beextremely different than it's been in years past. So what has it been likefor you? Oh It's night and day oviosly, it's so different for I, for example, the past threeseasons. First of all, you come into a building where there's more than justfifteen people on one side of the building. You know, because I'm on oneside, which is business and then the football side with all the players andcoaches are on a different side, but you know, first of all I used I'm usedto coming into a building where it's lively people are laughing calling on.You know sales people calling on the phones. You hear you know people backand forth in meeting, so that's been the biggest adjustment because,especially me, I'm a very social person. So I love that interaction with people, so that is that has been different andthen the biggest part too, is not being able to interact with players and coaches in person, because I used to all of theyou know, reporters ever needs to be able to go into the lock room during acertain period, which was desinated for media and you'd. Be Able to talk toplayers, ask them for interviews kind of develop those relationships to whereokay, Hey I've seen me before. I know you're the team reporter. We couldtrust you like now. Let's have a conversation like just those simplethings that maybe w we took for granted and you never thought that they wouldbe taken away, but yeah that's been one of the biggest adjustments, because noweverything is virtual. So a lot of times when I'm doing a virtualinterview, the player can't even see my face. On the other end, he can onlyhear my voice, so it's a lot harder to make those connections with players andcoaches and people when it's all virtual. So that's definitely been one of the biggest adjustments. I wouldhave to say yeah and I feel like for listeners who don't really understandhow the media works in terms of covering a team. You get stories that no one else getsby connecting with a player or a coach one on one. It's in those just randomconversations where tey'll mention something- and you know you're justshit chatting with him in the locker room and something comes up and you'relike Oh tell me more about that, and then it can turn into something thatyou wouldn't get just by a virtual press conference where other mediamembers are there too. So it makes your job even more difficult on the flipside.I'm sure players and coaches are fine with it, because a lot of them don'tlike the media attention anyway, so they get a little bit of a Pran Yeah Yeah. That's a good point. I thinkyou know I've met so many players who will straight up tell me like just Idon't really like being on camera, so I'm sure for some of them. You knowit's been a little bit more of a relief but yeah. I totally agree with that.You know it's because those small...

...interactions when you're not just thereto ask the player for something like can I get an interview? Can you be onthe show this or that but you're, just in the lock room to like have small, simple conversations, thosethose add up, you know, and then people end up remembering you and and beingable to trust you more and Hey, now they're willing to do an interview withyou, so yeah those things are definitely missed. Yeah, and to add onto that I mean fans, go to you. They trust you to bring them informationfrom the players that they can't get from anyone else. I mean that's, what'sso cool about being part of the production team? That's part of theteam, not outside media for another network. Is You have so much access to players to sort ofyou know, connect the fans to them in an important way, and it's difficultand fans are craving that connection today, now more than ever, just becauseof what's going on so I'm hoping that I mean by now, you've figured out how toadapt and make the most of it. But hopefully this is the only season thatwe have to live this way. Yeah I was singing Thi too. I was just sinking man,I'm not sure, I'm bleally not sure how much longer the world is going to be like this D, Not I'm not sure whatnext you is going to hold, but you now you make the best you have to try andmake the best of each situation, because before we were even able to goback into the office just to select few of US depending on you know yourposition and what exactly you have to do for the team we're just working fromhome. In honestly, I can't speak for everybody, but for me personally,working from home was really a struggle, sometimes because again, I'm a socialperson I enjoy interacting with people in person and so being isolated in myone bedroom apartment with me, and my dog was sometimes really hard. You know,because you don't get a lot of interaction with people unless it'svirtually yeah. It gets extremely lonely, and I truly don't know what Iwould do without my dog and my fiance of course, but more importantly, my dog,I think, not to get off track, but the coolest part of being an quarantine and peoplerealizing that they have more time to be home is how many dogs have beenadopted during this time and how people have just really come to love their dogs even more. If that'seven possible, the thing I'm worried about is as soon as things go back tonormal or dogs are going to be like they're going to have like crazyseparation xtimeoh. My Gosh. I've talked about that to I'm alwast liketelling people, because my dog already had really bad separation, anxiety, pre,covid and then covid came, and I was laplsed to spend so much time with himat home. And now I'm like starting to go back to work and he's home alone alot more now and he's just his new anxietis through the roof. ANM Like No,Oh well, we love our Dogos, so you mentioned making the best of thissituation, and you really are doing that. You have launched a new show, anew podcast that focuses on women in sports and I think it's so cool thatyou're able to not only host but produce your own show as part of thejets production team. So take me back to the beginning. How did that ideacome about yeah it'? It's been, oh, my goodness, honestly, I just get so happywhen I think about it, because it's just been so special to me honestly, one of my bosses actually him- and I came up with this idea and-and he brought it to me because you know he was like you know. I think Ithink it's important that you know we can highlight you in a way to where you're also ableto interact with other women, and I was like yeah. I totally agree you know just because, especially especially with so many more womenentering the sports world and so many...

...more women women entering space spacesin sports that you know haven't always been seen, andso I just really wanted to. I took the idea and I kind of just made it my own.You know I knew what I wanted to focus on. I knew you know the audience that I wanted toreach. I knew exactly how I wanted to approach it and I just kind of took itand ran with it. You know they gave me I'm really gragteful, because they gaveme a lot of freedom, a lot of creative freedom and they trusted me. You know tthe jets, really trust me to create this piece of content, which Iappreciate you know as as a creative. All you really want to be is trusted todo your job and trusted to create a really good piece of content thatpeople will consume and they've. Given me that freedom, which I justappreciate so much and I've gotten, you know for the most part, I've reallyreached out to the guests on my own I've, just kind of you know I just tookit and ran ith hat was like I'm going to ask anyone and everyone who, I thinkwould just be a great fit, and you know if, if I get told no, that's that'scool, so I've gotten some help to from some of my awesome coworkers who havehelped me grab a couple of guests as well, but the conversations have just beenamazing. A MANDA IV just I've been so grateful for each of the women who havebeen able to come on the PODCAST and they've, been so honest and so open andwe've just had incredible conversations. We've had conversations ranging frombeing a mother in the sports world and what that entails, and you know the challenges of that andthen we go all the way to bigest CEO of an NFL team and what itwas like to be. You know a woman in power in the National Football Leagueand what that meant. So I've just had so many amazing conversations, and it'sreally just opened my eyes even more to the fact that women are so supportiveof other women in this industry and it needs to be that way. It really does wehave to stick together as women. We have to support one another and liftone another up, and I just felt like I was being given an opportunity to dothat for other women and give women an opportunity to tell their stories. SoI've just been really proud. I've been really proud of the product tha I will,I will say, and I'm so happy with where we're at right now. All of these thingsare it's just like music to my ears, it's so cool from the idea being bornand I'm trusting you to to kind of take this and run with it and make it yourown is amazing, and I'm glad to hear that you're grateful for that, becausethat doesn't happen anywhere and everywhere. In fact, this podcast ideawas pitched to I pitched this to my last employer and they turned it down,and so, when I was laid off, I started it by myself and I feel that I feel the same way. You feel sohonored to hear these stories from these women and even if they are frontfacing, and you see them on tv all the time or you you hear about them and and they mightfeel like celebrities to you just hearing their stories and hearingthe struggles and and how relatable they are like it's just it's someaningful and the one thing I feel like you can relate to this. The onething I didn't realize when I started this show was how much I wouldpersonally be impacted by them. I thought my guest like they'd, come ontheyd sure their stories, and I would you know oan on be like wowt's, soawesome of my listeners would get the most out of it. My listeners would belike wow that was so great. I loved hearing from her on Xyz, but there havebeen so many times. Wel Ask a nonchalant question and my guest willjust go into this incredible story that just hits me right in the gut, and Ijust feel so inspired and it's just so powerful and I just it's it's thosethose moments that make it so worth it and it's been unexpected, but amazingyeah. I just have to quickly say sorry: My dog is Yani...

Lik, a full grown man, so sorry, Fordim,Hehas, something to say n Wans get on he's all all aboard the lady TraineHumbobbin he's very supportive of the ladies, but no you're just completely right. I actually totally relate to that. I think thatwhen you, when you create a product oftentimes, the first thing in yourmind is the consumer and the audience, and what is the audience going to beable to get out of this? What is the audience going to love to hear? How isthis going to impact them positively? An at least that's how that's, how Itry and approach it and oftentimes, like you said when youstart to have these conversations, and you start to open up with these women.You really realize that so much of what they say applies to your life andapplies to your experience and the position you're in especially some ofthese. Now most of the women who haveinterviewed have been in this industry longer than I have been and have somuch more experience, and I always ask them. You know what what is a piece ofadvice, that you would provide younger broadcasters and you just you, learn somuch in such a short conversation just about people, individuals, theirown experiences and how you know their advice can help you and how theirexperience can maybe change something you were thinking. So I totally agreewith that. Yeah and I love how even though conversations like these canfeel specific like if we're specifically talking about abroadcaster or being in the broadcasting business, a lot of advicecan translate to so many different industries for women and men, and Ithink, that's really important as a listener to just keep an open mind like,even though we might be talking about all of these things. That sounds sillyand crazy to you, because you're not in broadcasting a lot of this advice andlife, lessons and just hearing other people's stories of how they perseveredand and made it through. I think that is what is most important yeah. I agreewith that again in something else. You said that I really want to reiterate:is the men and women part, because for me personally, when I started the NewYork car podcast, you know I was talking to a lot of my colleagues andthey're. Like O H, this is going to be a great platform, so many women deservelike a channel where they can enjoy football.An this N Ght and relate to the host- and I was like completely agree- youknow we need to. We need to create more spaces for women in sports and th. Thatway I was like, but also it's not it's not just for women, like men, can learnso much from these conversations and men can. I want men to enjoy theseconversations to. I want everyone and anyone to be able to tune in and findsome type of way where they can either relate or take a positive away from thepodcast. No matter who you are what your gender is, I want anyone and everyone to be ableto listen and really get something good out of it. You know, even if it's justa quick ten second bit that my guess said, or maybe it was a hard eatingquestion, or maybe it was a laugh that we had and just want everyone andanyone to be able to enjoy it to an extent where, while still being able torealize, like you know, these are like women empowering women. This is a greatconversation. We should be having more of these conversations right and Idon't think men should feel as if they aren't part of the conversation. Justbecause it's a woman talking to a woman, I mean we have spent the majority ofour lives. Obviously, looking up to women in this industry, but we've alsogrown up and still listen and and watch shows that are conversations that areall men and you know we enjoy them and we feel inspired by them and and that'show we get our sports news a lot of...

...times. So I don't ever want a man tofeel like they aren't included in a conversation just because it's aconversation with two women. I think there's this stigma, sometimes of howgirls can just you know, talk really gurly and like that's. What we're goingto talk about is really girly stuff and you know Lat's, not it we're justtalking about life experiences and we're talking about sports, and youknow real life journeys and and what we want for ourselves, and you know it'sall inclusive of everyone, and I think that that''s important to remember andtruthfully in my experience I've all I shouldn't say always most of the timeI've been the only female on a specific team like in my department of where Iworked, I've been the only female and I loved it. I've been very, very, veryfortunate to work with amazing men who are still friends to this day, whetherI worked with them last year or six years ago, and so it's really important,it seems like you, have that experience as well to just have the support of themen to be like. Yes, these conversations are important. Here iswhat you I will give you this platform, you go and use it. How you think youshould use it yeah, absolutely and we've come a long way. Just as as a world you know, just in especiallythe sports world, the broadcast worly come a long way. I think women are more appreciated and morerespected, but I also think there's still a long way to go. I still see instances or situations where I'm likeokay. Well, we can get better in this way or you know wlet's. Let's try andchange this mindset or, let's, let's keep pushing forward in this way. Butyou know that's, that's really anovherything you do in life, it's notjust this specific area, but I'm definitely seeing improvements whichmakes me hopeful and excited, but yeah. Definitely so long way to go not todwell on this, but I think what gives me the most hope is that, even thoughyou still see the negativity specifically online people arestandupfor themselves more and there are more conversations about it versusjust ignoring it. You know if there's like a man, because usually it is allmen typically who will respond negatively to you, know a pregnantsideland reporter or a woman who is wearing a top that they don'tappreciate for whatever reason like I think in the past, women have felt likethey can't bring attention to that negativity because they have areputation to appoled and now we're fierce and we're like. Excuse me. No,you cannot talk to me like that. It's not okay and hat's. What gives me hopeis that we finally feel comfortable to speak up for ourselves and just letpeople know that were people to, and we have a job to do exactly just callingout the the bad calling out the bad calling outthe unnecessary I yeah. That's so true. I think I think we as women are just getting way morecomfortable to do that and I think the biggest reason. Why is because we nowwe know we have support, you know we know we have men and women who aregoing to back us up. Lo, like you know, maybe in a different time women were'treally able to speak up because they were afraid of the backlash. Ore.theyere, afraid of you, know, O they're going to look like a nagging woman. Arethey're going to look like this or they're going to look like that, andthey still have a job to do and they can't risk anything with their job, andthat's just that's just the ugly truth of the Sports World for women a lot oftimes back in the earlier days, so yeah. I think women are more comfortable tospeak out and speak up because they know heywhat's. What's wrong is goingto be called out and it's going to be fished and you're going to besupportive when you do it yep one thousand percent. Well, we could talkabout this for a very, very long time. I don't want to keep you for muchlonger, but in talking about your show and what you've accomplished so far, Imean there's still a long way to go for you, because there are so many amazingthings to accomplish. So what professional goals do you have foryourself? I think about this question a lot to myself. Honestly, I think abouta lot of times. You know where do I...

...want to be? You know what are some of my goals and I don't know honestly a man. I knowthat's like a terrible answer. I know it's a terrible answer, but no it's nothonestly. I it's not a fair question, because this industry has ever changed.I mean the world is changing constantly and sometimes, if you have a specificgoal, it could steer you away from, like being open minded to doingsomething else. So that's why I tu yeah. So I guess I ask because you can answerit in a Broadway like, for example, like your goal entering your job withthe jets may not have included, show about women in sports. Your goal, whenyou entered this role as to tell stories and to do it in a meaningfulway and to be remembered for sharing stories that people relate to andremember, and so, if you take that theme like where do you? Where do youwant to go with this? There are so many opportunities. No it's a great question and, and Ithink it is a fair question- I don't think it's an unfar question. I thinkit's, I think it's a fair good question and honestly, I think the older I get inthe more experience I have within this broadcast industry. The more I kind ofthe more my goals change, the more my values change, the more you know what Iwould I aim to be changes, and I just think that's part of life to Ijust think when the more experience you have, the more you learn, the more youknow what you do want and what you don't want, and I think I don't necessarily have an end game inmind. I don't have like an end goal or an end career or a dream career. Idon't have anything like that. I just I want to keep getting better at mycraft. That's what I really want to do. I want to I've always told myself thissince I was younger. This has always been a gold.Mine always want to leave a positive impact on the people around me for whatever period of time, I'm intheir life. So for this period of time in my life, I'm able to work for agreat organization and I'm able to work with amazing people who allow me to becreative and I'm so grateful for that right now and I'm trying to live inthis moment and really just you know, take advantage of this opportunity- andyou know just see where it all goes. You know. So I don't know if that answers yourquestion, but basically I'm just trying to leave a positive impact grow as anindividual and kind of just let these opportunities to take mee to wherevermeant to be. Next, that's really how that's a that's the point I'm at in mylife. I don't know how I got here Bot this is where I'm met. That's such a powerful response,because, especially in this industry and again like others, we get sofocused on what's next. I know I'm very guilty of this, so true, you'R you're,here you're doing this you're doing great things and you're like okay cool.So what's next like, where am I going to go next to where Yo move? Who can Iwork for and- and we really do it's so important to do what you'redoing is focus on the here and now what you're doing why it's meaningful? Whatlessons you can learn while you're here and I'm so glad you recognize that at ayoung age Yor year younger than me- and it took me quite a while to sort offigure out the importance of that. So I'm I'm like so blown away by by thatresponse, because it's true and it's it's such a, I don't know it takes alot of maturity to realize that not only realize that, but to put it intoaction so good for you, okay, wel. I appreciate that. Yes, but it's trueit's true. Can you leave us with a woman in sports who inspires you and itcan be multiple or it can just be one? The choiceis Yours, oh there's, so manywomen out there who I mean you know this? I could. I couldprobably name...

...fifteen and twenty women who I look upto and wh who I really love, I'm Gointo. So, first of all, I've always reallyloved as a as a reporter in a broadcaster she doesn't work in the NFL.She works in the NBA Christon Ledlo has always been very inspirational to me,just not even just in her carer but as an individual, because I see the wayshe carries herself. Obviously I don't know her personally,but I just you know. I've heard. I know people who know her personally and I'veheard incredible things about her as an individual as a human, so I've alwaysreally looked up to her just by the way she carries herself and the way shetreats people and kind of the way she goes about her job. So Chris and Ledlowhas always been somebody who I've really love to look up to, and I mean I canagain. I can dame so many others like dors, Burk, who's, Pang, so many paths,sage, steel, who's, absolutely incredible, Ino Studio, I literally canjust name so many women, but I'll tell you what I have talked to so manyamazing women on my podcast and I'm not just saying this. I truly am not justsaying this, but each time I have another woman on my podcast. Theyinspire me in a different way. So I'm going to give a shout out to all of thewomen who I've had in the New York Care podcast to because they've beenincredibly kind with their time and just so open to talking abouteverything and anything so I'll also give a shoutts all those incrediblewomen to well speaking of, can you give us a little teaser what's coming upnext? What can we look forward to on your show? Yes, so I am in the process of tryingto get a couple of different women from ESPN. I don't want to give the namesquite just yet, because one of them felt throug, you don't have to ruin it. Some very incredible women from ESPN,I'm in the TALX, with getting them on the podcast next, actually was almostable to get one of them the other day, but then it didn't end up workingbecause connection issues. So hopefully my next episode will be out thisfollowing weekand, well be able to get one of those amazing women on thepodcast amazing. Well, if anyone knows about connection issues, it's me. Solet me know if you need any help with that, there's nothing worse thangetting an amazing guest, and then you know it all falls apart because of theIG. Now it's technology, though exact we're inright now exactly well Olivia. This has been such a pleasure. You truly are ashining star and it was so amazing to hear how meaningful your work is rightnow and everything that you're doing with your podcast and also covering areally amazing organization in the New York jets. I think this guy is thelimit for you and it was such a joy. Talking with you, so thank you so muchfor coming on, maybe so much a man that I feel so honored honestly, I really do.I feel honored that you ask Ye to be of one of your guests and come on yourpodcast and you've been so incredibly kind and just 'm, I'm so happy to havebeen apart of this. Thank you so much if you take anything at all from thisepisode, my suggestion is to relisten to the part where Olivia talks aboutleaving a positive influence on the people around her and just making themost of the moment that she's in, as I said during the interview, I've beenguilty of the exact opposite. I think probably my entire career I've alwaysbeen chasing something whether it was the next job, the next city, the nextsport. The next show I was going to host whatever it was. I've somehowlearned how to just sit, be still soak in the energy of the moment and just beit's not easy. Let me tell you, but it's so worth it, cheers to that. Ifyou enjoyed this episode, please rat and review the show that would mean somuch to me if you want to follow along...

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