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And So She Goes
And So She Goes

Episode 23 · 1 year ago

22. Lauren Jbara, Colorado Avalanche Host and Reporter, Altitude TV

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In college, Lauren Jbara had to make a tough decision--continue studying to become a doctor or switch to broadcasting. I'm sure you can figure out what she chose. Since graduation, she has covered the Detroit Lions. Detroit Pistons, high school sports, and now she works as the Colorado Avalanche Host and Reporter for Altitude TV. Lauren's passion and humility oozes as she reports on the team and interviews players. While the team excels in the playoffs, Lauren is in Denver reporting from outside the NHL bubble. We talk about the challenges that come with that, how much confidence she has in this Avs team, who she models her reporting style after, and so much more.

Conversations with real women who makesports happen, this is, and so she goes, here's your host, Amanda Borgeous, Hello. Thank you for tuning in. If youare first time listener. This is a show that highlights top women in sportsfrom all backgrounds in any department. Just bad ask females an making theirmark on the sports industry in some way. Now, if you are a sports fan, I'm sureyou are loving the fact that, after months and months of watching nothingbut home improvement shows which I love and I will not give up now. Tha Sportsare back by the way we can now watch baseball, basketball and hockey now AFthose three I'm most excited about hockey, specifically playoff hockey andone team that is expected to go far. This post season is the ColoradoAvalanche. This episode features an interview with the ABS host andreporter four altitude TV Lourinjabara by the way shout out to Dan onInstrogram, because I posted I story asking you guys who you want to hearfrom on the show and Laren had already been on my wish list, and then she wasrequested by DANCO here. Yougo Laren is originally from Detroit and shegraduated from the University of Michigan, but her college experiencewasn't what you might think we get into that. Of course, we also talk about howher past roles have helped set her up for success in her position. Now she iscovering the team from Denver, which means she is not in the NHL bubble. Sowe talk about the challenges of reporting and broadcasting from afar.We also get into the news that broke this week in college sports, the BigTen and pack twelve conferences announced no false sports because ofcobin nineteen and since both Laurand and I went to big football schools, wetalk about our feelings on that. Lauren looks up to some really awesome womenin this industry, so we talk abit about how those women have paived the way forgirls like her to grow, be great at their jobs without further ado. Here ismy cat with Lauran Gibara, Hey Lauren. How are you hey mad, I'mgood? How are you I'm good? Thank you. Thank you for joining me. I'm soexcited to talk to you. There has been so much. That's been going on not onlyon this day that we are recording in Ha sports world, but just in general andhockey's been back. So I'm really excited to talk to you about that andabout the avalanche this season, but first I just want to start with alittle rewind. So if you could just tell us how you got into sports andwhen you knew that you wanted to make a career out of it yow. First of all,thank you so much for having me you've had so many incredible names, I'm sofar in your plodcastle. I I feel you know truly lucky to be included in thatgroup. So thank you so much for asking me to come on. I'm so excited to behere, UM, so rewinding. You know I graduated from the University ofMichigan in thousand, and fifteen and kind o decided that I wanted to getinto the broadcasting world. You know not right away. I was in neurosciencemajor in college, which is really weird. I thought I was going to do med schooland he and then I wanted to do orthopedic surgery, so something stillinvolved in sports. You know more helping people get back to being activeand being able to play the sports that they want to, but halflike through myjunior year I was in class one day and I'm like youknow, I'm decent at this. I like this stuff, but I don't love it. I'm notpassionate about it and Um. I really had o slow down and I talkedto my dad about it and he's like Lor, and what are you passioned about he'slike? If you do, if you're doing something that you're truly loving andpassionate about you, don't work a day in your life? I know you know, that'slike the saying that everyone says, but it's so true and I'm like Dad. You knowmy whole life. I Love Sports. I have...

...two brothers who have played sports.You know throughout their entire life. I played club soccer at Michigan and mydad was my coach. You know in every sport that I played growing up, so wegrew up with that sporty family and I'm like I want to do something talkingabout sports. My Dad's, like you, know what try sports broadcasting if itdoesn't work out, you know you can always go back to school or dosomething else, but why the heck not let's try it out, and I'm so glad thatI did and I'm so glad that I got that advice from him and my bomb and an thesupport from him and my mo my mom in the first place Um so yeah. It'sinitially brought me to where I'm at now and and what a ride it's been. Sohow did you make that transition once you realized? Okay, maybe being adoctor, isn't for me, which not everyone has becoming a dauter as aplan B? How did you transition from thatmindset into okay? Now I have to completely change everything that I'vebeen doing. Yeah Wat is a fun thing to pull out the neuroscience major thing:it's like two truts in a lie which one's the live. Everyone always thinksthat it's the neuroscience degree, so it's kind of fun to have that one inthe backpocket but yeah it was. It was different shifting gears, but I feltlike when I did it was almost like. I could take a breath of fresh air. Itwas like wow, I'm actually doing something that I want to do so I doublemajored in communications Um and started getting some internships, mysenior year of college, so I was really lucky and got an internship with theDetroit lions working in there a pressbox- and I was just doing statsand just kind of talking to people and learning what everyone does and makingconnections that way, and from that I met one of my mentors Brad Galley andhe works for our ABC affiliate back in Detroit, and I got an intership withthem: The fall semester of my Senier Year of college and shadowed. You knowDetroit Lions Games in Michigan State Games, an Michigan Football Games andwas able to just learn and meet so many different, incredible people who arefantastic at their jobs and just learn from them and watch and observe Um, andyou know that ultimately led to me getting my first job out of college,which was for a little sports network called State Champ sports network andwe covered high school sports. Its a pad program show on foxworts Detroitevery Sunday and so that Kindof gave me the time to. You know work on my repson camera, because trust me, I was not very good when I first started. I thinkthe first time that I was ever on camera. I went to say something and I'mlike welcome in, and I forgot my name and I like blinked.It was almost like a deer, an headlife. Now I know why people say deer andheadlights. I turly felt like a deer and had like I was like. Oh my goodness.I don't know if I'm chalked up for this, but you know it all worked out and soyeah. I worked for this high school sports, Newwork D, TM sports networkand then from that met people and hat a job is the INARINA host forthe Detroit redwings and is the ANARENA host and digital reporter for theDetroit pistins. So that was cool. I got to work in both hockey andbasketball and meet different people in different industries and cover twodifferent sports, all Beit I was just doing in arena hosting, but it it didgive me that live camera experience and it was awesome and then from that youknow ment more people and got a Jaba Intercom radio working forthe country radio station, and I did a little bit also with a sport stationthere and then did some free lancing for Fox Sports Detroit. I covered theirhigh school basketball, state finals and th on top of that did some stufffor ESPN three covering Oakland University, men's basketball and on topof that top fitness classes. So I think I look back and it was one of those things for me whereI told myself from the beginning. I was never going to say no to an opportunityand I'm so grateful that I didn't and I'm so grateful that there was so manypeople who were supporting me along the way and giving me these differentopportunities, because I felt like I...

...got to one not only work with differenttypes of people in in different sports, but two just got experience, doing abunch of different things and having that experiences ultimately helped meget to where I'm at and so I'm so lucky. You know that so many people supportedme along the way and gave me those opportunities, but looking back, it'scrazy, you know a year and a half ago. I got this job here, a altitude andbefore that I was working like ten jobs at once for four years. So I just feelsuper blast and superlucky now to to you know, have gotten the job here andand again working for with in four incredible people. So, first of all, no one is good oncamera when they firstlike it is cringeworthy for anyone to go back andwatch like your first, whether it's your very very first time or it's. Youknow in the first few years that you've, you start it's it's so bad, but it isnecessary to kind of go back and be like wow. I've come a long way, H.Honestly, it makes you feel good you're, like wowgiv Yo. I am supposed to dothat's what's your first time on camera like that too, I think so. I I'm one ofthose people that hate watching themselves, which is a weird thing,because you have to watch yourself as an on camera. Talent like you need tobe able to see like. Oh, I shouldn't do that with my hands. That looks weird orI need to stand straight. You know you just need to pay attention to certainmannerisms that you might not even realize you're doing while you'retalking lk going back. Like you said, it's a good reminder to like see howfar you've come, but it's it's just so crinworthy. I know. Oh my gosh. Iwatched one of my old reels the other day. I think it was from twent ysixteen, and I always did this thing, so I hold the microphone with my righthand, and I always did this thing with my left hand like it would be almostlike a wave but I'd like point off screen. I'm like hey guys and likepoint offscreen with my hand, I'm like what am I do. It was just and I woulddo it every single sentence and I'm watching this, like. Oh, my Gosh, likewhat do I do with my hands and it's just so funny so glad we got rid ofthat one. That was not a good trait to have, and it's good that it's good,that you recognize that, because I mean a lot of people in this business knowthat you have to have thick skin and you need to be able to take criticismand feedback, whether it's positive or negative, and hopefully we all havepeople in our corner. That's for us and any time they do g give us advices tohelp us not to put us down anyway, but t really. It's it's helpful to justhear from someone else to be like hey. You might not even realize you're doingthis, but and then you're like Osh light. Bold. Yes, of course, I'm notgoing to do that anymore, yeah! No, it is nice and constructive criticism.I've always appreciated it because I feel, like you know it makes you betterwhat you do. No one's perfect right. We all need to improve some way, so it'snice to have that sometimes yeah. So when you first started working inbroadcasting, what were your initial and goals? Did you like set out to geta specific job? So when I first started, my ultimategoal was to end up at a regional network and I'm here. So it's it's crazy afterI got the job here, I'm like I need to reevaluate my goal and therlike. Idon't know, but I'm so happy here right now, I'm working for you know one ofthe best bosses that I've ever had and honestly the environment at altitudesports. It's like like the guys that we travel with and everything my broadcastcrew, we're truly like a family. So I feel super super lucky to have ended uphere, Um and in terms of the future. You know eventually I would love to beat at a national network, but I am very, very happy here right now. An Idefinitely want to stick here for a while. What is one part of your jobthat people might think is glamorous, but really it's not glamorous at all YGod, Ohmy Gosh people always think they're like Oh, you probably get yourhair and make up done before every day...

...and o bloc, and it's so funny because,like not really like, I do it all myself and I think, on top of that,just like the whole aspect of being on Cavari, you look so put together and Umlike you. Have everything planned out and, like your hair, you know is doneyour makeup's done. You have to stand a certain way and and have certainmannerisms that you know are appealing on camera and talk a certain way thatyou know can get a story out to fans, but then behind the scenes you shouldsee. I'm like the bag. Lady, I have like four or five bags in my hands allthe time and oh my gosh, like I truly look sodishevelled. I walk in in tennis shoes and then I put on heels to be on camera,but o I'll walkin with tennis shoes. My make ups not fully doned my hairs andlike a Bunn on the top of my head, I have like six bags in my hands hearingeverything from like make up to hair products too. My computer, to note toyou, know five, our energies, which not great for you, but I love them they're,so good. So I think just like the behind the scenes aspect of even likeshowing up to an arena- and you know too from traveling with theRangers. Sometimes you travel in like the setups that they have the reportersand you know you're in the Zamboni tunnel and you're, avoiding all ofthese people on the eyes and you're envoiding those ambonies and you'rejustjust, trying to keep it all together, we'll also watchin the gameand listening to your play by playing analyst and Um, you don't look soglarorous on T v, but really like you're sitting in this little stool,and sometimes you don't even have a stool and watching these games from hisamboni tunnel trying to not get elbowed in the face by the people that arescraping the sice shavings off of the ice. So I I think that that those kindof things you know that you don't see on camera, but you know it's allcharacter building and I love it. I don't know that all sounds prettyglamorous to me. Gosi. Remember! There's this one timein Winnipeg that witha pig ytropical beautiful place. I know it's honestly.I've never been ane world warmer in my life no, but it is really a great city andI've heard it's enominal in the summer. We just never go there in the summer,obviously during t e season, but I was about to go back on camera and myproducers counting me down and he's like four tolor and three two and rightwhen he said one. This guy, like steps right in the middle of the camera shotbecause we're using the camera across the ice and starts like shoveling snow,and he is two inches from elbowing me in the head and my producer is laughingso hard in my ear and he's like go lore and I'm like welcome back Blah Blah blawell im like also trying to avoid getting elbowed in the face, and it wasjust it was honestly so much fun and so funny and we ended up making a jokeabout it. Mark Mojar, playby, playin, Peter mcnabbour analyst. We we werecracking up about it. It was so funny they were like. I saw your life flashbefore your eyes and I was like Oh my gosh. It could have been really bad,but you know what we made it through. So that's the glamor part of the job,but what's funny too, is I feel, like fans appreciate moments like that,because I think I think, deep down most fans alike. Seeing people like you bereal. You know, like everyone knows, you're human, but to see you in a humanmoment and to see players as well humanized through your interviews anddifferent features that are done. I don't know, I think, there's there'sa really cool element and like what are you supposed to do? You know you justroll the pludches n ind, like that's that you just gotto, move on and Ghiveyour report and that's it exactly yeah and I agree with you too. I thinkthat's the funnest part of the the most fun funnes is not a word most fun. Partof the job you know is being able to be that vessel between the fans and theplayers and being able to you know tell those humanizing stories about the guysoff of the ice and obviously talk about hockey too. But but I think my favoritepart of the job is just getting to know the players in general and then givingthose stories to the fans and creating that connection,...

...which is really really cool. So you joined the team at a prettycrazy time. First, the season is cut short because of coved, and then thereis no hockey and then now the team is in the first round of the Stanley Cupplayoffs. How would you explain what this season has been like? How can youSomethi don't sum it up it's not over, but you know what I mean, how we candescribe it yeah. Well. First of all, it's been so crazy, so I moved herelast April April, Twenty nineteen and the first game I actually worked wasgame four against Calgary in the first round of the playoffs, so I was alreadysuper nervous and then obviously gave five tha have one in Calgary at Dzor,eight seet and they beat the one sead Calgary in five games, which was supercool and great. To have that experience, and so I was coming into this season.You know trying to build off of that momentum. I know the guys were too andit's been such an incredible season watching them grow and seeing the depthon this team. But how would I summarize it wow? It's just been: It's been twenty twenty. You know it'sjust so. Twenty twenty this year has just been crazy, but at the same timethere are positives to take out of. It is an much of a bummer as it was thatthe season was paused Um and obviously it's unconventional now the guy'splaying in a bubble. You know where no one's allowed in or out unless you loseit's unconventional, but I think it gave us all a bit of time to just slowdown and appreciate where we're at- and I don't know if you feel the same waytoo, but I felt like I was constantly focusing on the next thing: the nextgame, the next city. You know the next thing that I had to do and I think forme, this quarantian portion has been really awesome to just flow down andappreciate one where you're at and two just kind of you know take time tocultivate those relationships around you, because, when you're constantlytraveling and constantly working, you don't have as much time to talk tofriends and family and just have those relationships, and so that's been areally cool. You know part of this whole thing, but for the guys I feellike you know they came back from this break hungry as ever, even justwatching Um training camp round, too, you know mid the end of July. The pacewas there, the intensity was there. The motivation was there and it's been coolto watch them now in the bubble and cover cover them in the bubble. Now,because they've brought that- and you just see the intensity ramping up everysingle game. So I'm looking forward to the surround wi they're taken onTherizona coyotes, so it's going to be, I think it's going to be a good matchup for them, so it'll be fun to watch yeah. This team is stacked. I mean theywere expected to go really far last year and I feel like this year. Moreand more people are predicting them to go even farther Um. Actually, my friendJamie her. She was on the show multiple weeks ago. Actually she just predictedthem to win the cup, which is exciting. I saw her awier how much confidence do you have in thisteam in their chase for the Cup Yeah? I have a lot of confidence in this teamand I feel like just covering them every single game every single day,even with practices and everything you just see the amount of depth that theyhave like lines, one through four and it's been so cool to watch. You know itdoesn't all fall on the top line. Our fourth line produces quite often andsame at the third line, second line, so they all work together and whan. One Line is it producinganother one will step up and it's cool, because obviously every opponent posesa different. You know challenge for a team and it's cool, because each linehas specific strength that they, you know, can use against different teamsand then, on top of that, our defensive core is just so strong, they're, notafraid to get involved offensively, but also, you know really great in thedzone as well, and so it's cool to see, and then we have two strong Gol tenderswith Pilip Gruwban Po. All France Cos so just everything working together.You just see what this team is capable of and even Nathan Mc Kinnin set acouple days ago. He's like look. This...

...is my fourth time on the post season.Third Year N Third Consecutive Post season, he goes, but this is the firstyear that I actually feel like like. We can win this thing and that's somethingcoming from a guy like Nathan, MC kinnitt. So it's really cool to see theconfidence that the guys have in themselves at in each other, and Ithink another really cool thing about this avalanche team. is they are soclose, like they literally spend every single waking moment together on theroad and Peter Argon he's one of ourphotographers for altitude? T V he's in the bubble with the tea right now, andhe goes literally. They spend every single moment together if they're notin their room. They're together, you know in the room just playing cards orhanging out or eating or going to watch games together, and I think that that'ssomething that that creates that you know team atmosphere on the ice is theconnection that they have off the ice, they'r best friends, and so it's coolto see m that have that relationship and then see how it translates on theice and competition as well. What's cool about that, too, is I'm sure theyall missed each other, and so now that they're, together again an no one'staking it for granted and I'm sure theire bond is stronger than ever,because that ability to be together physically was taken away from them,and so I'm sure that's just made them stronger. Speaking of the bubble,you're used to being with the team all the time being around them getting toknow them, knowing their personalities being able to bring that out ininterviews and during a broadcast you're, not reporting from the bubbleyou're in Denver outside of the bubble. So what is what has been the challengein still covering the team to the best of your ability? Yeah, I think that'sactually been. The biggest adjustment Amanda is, is the fact that you knowthe biggest part of our job is is telling those personalized storiesabout the players to the fans and creating a connection that way and alot of the time you get those stories from just after practice, going to sitdown next to guys thith their stalls in the locker rimagees chatting. It's noteven like you're fishing for a story idea, but you just talk, and then youknow you get a little nugget about something and you're like. Oh, can youtell me more about that or so it's just not having those. You know necessarilypersonal relationships that you would normally have during a season, becauseevery single interview that we do is through a zoom room and all the mediaisallowed on it. So you have to pick and choose your time to ask questions and Ithink th t that's been the biggest adjustment for me, but at the same time it's been cool. You know adjusting thekind of a different style of broadcasting and showing that look. Wecan still make this work even though we're going through such a crazy timeand and the guys are in this bubble. You know- and it's unprecedented andscary, but at the same time, they're making this thing work and so we'remaking it work too, but I think yeah, that's the biggest adjustment is is nothaving that time to have those. You know conversations that you wouldnormally have after practice, but you can still get those story, ideasthrough zoom and- and you pick your time to ask questions and you knowstill cultivate those relationships that way Um but yo, I'm broadcastinghere in Denver at Pepsi Center. You know where the ABS should have beenplaying and it's so weird be o them, they'll be empty, it's so empty and sodark, and I can hear my voice echo, it's so weird. So our play, I play an analyst and thenstudio hosting analysts are down at our studio and it's about thirty minutes,south of the city and then pepsy Centeris right in the city. So I'mthere you know doing broadcasts from inside of Pepsi Zetter and then ourradio playby play is actually a Pepsi Center, two up in the TV booth and it'sso empty and so quiet that I can hear him calling the game all Clo up fromthe TV booth, which is crazy. So I have like my I fbn listening to our TV playby played analysts, and then I can hear our radio play. Biplayen Analis, Kino,Rigeti all the way, opof the TV booth so'n, like its cool. I get two twodifferent styles of playby play in each year: 's It's fun but yeah, that's been.Definitely the DIF most difficult adjustment. You know from fromtraditional broadcasts Onow, but we're...

...making it work, and you know trying todeliver a good product and fet keeping our fingers across at the avs make itfar. Can we just give a silent round of applause or we can even do an audibleone? Four, a I play analysts who have to do their job away from the game likefirst of all, for people that don't even understand like calling a hockeygame in general is like. I will never be able to rap my brain around it. It'ssuch a fast sport. You have to see and then react and then say what's happenedlike there's, there's so much that happens at once, so to have to washthat on a screen and not live like I. I could never do that. So thank you tothose who are amaing. It's Incredibli, audible, Clayo, wherever os G, honest,it's honestly incredible and they're calling a game from a screen, andobviously you know if you're a playby play, um broadcaster and an analyst youknow your team in and out because you're covering them every single day.But it's more about being able to see numbers and names on the other teamlike like, I feel like if you're watching the ABS and you're coveringthe ou all season. You know how the guys skates, so you can pick up onthose mannerisms and know who is who, without even necessarily seeing theirnumbers, but with other teams. You don't have that much experience. Youknow talking about them in so so you can't pick up on those little nuances.You have to see numbers and names so being able to actually call a game froma TV screen. It's incredible and everyone's doing great job. I've beenwatching a bunch of different broadcasts, just you know, with all ofthe Games that have been going on with the playing round and and everythingthere Um and all these playby play and analysts and reporters are doing aphenomenal job. I covering this Po season. Well, speaking of I have tocompliment you because I I really do love your style of reporting and youron camera presence is just very it s. just there's a positive energy aboutyou that I love I feel like in your videos. I feel like you're talking tome, which is a huge complement, because there are a lot of people that might bea little more robotic or might be very, very scripted, and you can tell a lotof us in broadcasting, see someone at some point and think Oh wow, I wan tobe like her, so who has inspired your style of reporting if anyone yeah well,first of Allvanda, that is so sweet. Thank you like that's, truly like thebiggest goal of my job is to just you know, make people feel like like we'rejust at home having a conversation about a sport that we all love to watchso that thank you for saying that that truly, you know, makes me so happy interms of people that I've looked up to my whole life, Um smantha ponder, hasalways been somebody. She H R. She just has such a great presence like camerashe's, so steady, she's, knowledgeable! U, and she can just hang. She can hangwith the boys and thatthng that I've admired about her and just theconfidence that she has and the respect you know that she has garnered over theyears. I I just love watching her m now on Sunday, an if l, countdown andthat's would be a dream job for me eventually and then someone else justyou know in the sport of hockey is Catherine. tappen she's always beensomebody she again. She is so steady, too, and Wa be able to watch herconstantly now with every with hockey every single day m you just learne somuch from watching somebody like that and she gets to do hockey and footballcovering notodame football, and I just love watching her she's, so good at herjob she's knowledgeable. She could also hang with the guys- and I feel likeboth of them- have that kind of presence that I want to be able to haveon Cabrad, so I've looked up to both of them for a long time before I evengraduated college, and and knew that this is what I wanted to do for therest of my life and and continue to look up to them. Um and even justlooking around, like I don'tlike all the women that are in the NationalHockey League like Terran Hatcher. She...

...works for the Philadelphia Flyer she'sa great friend of mine, and I love her work and you just look around Carlinbathe that works for the L, a kings. You just look around and see all theseincredible women who are so talented, so knowledgeable and are so good attheir jobs, and it's just really cool to see so many women succeeding in anindustry like this but yeah in terms of people that I look up to definitelyCatherine Tapin and some at the ponder. Those two are are high up on the listof you know who I spire to be like. I love that I I also love both of thosewomen smanthe ponder was she was getting really big when I was incollege, and so I just like watched her every move like I- and I still love herto this day, but just watching her climb and and have success has beenit's it's cool to see. Awesome people rise in this industry because thatdoesn't always happen. So I'm glad you brought her up yeah and he be the waylike she's, paving the way she's the first ever woman whosto, that's a womanon Sunday, Annafel, counttown, soits, school Andoyou, know Kindo, see herpaving the way and N and creating new opportunities for women in the sportsindustry. Absolutely, and I'm glad that you brought up other women in the NHL,because I know you've only been in the sisterhood of hockey reporters forabout an ear. So not that long, but you've had time precoved to travelaround and meet other team reporters around the country and around Canada.What has that that been like for you? I know that when I worked for the Rangersthat was my favorite part about traveling was just meeting andconnecting with so many awesome, women yeah absolutely, and it's actuallysomething that you know. I look forward to so a lot of the time when I get tocities I'll plan out ahead of time, I'm likehey terro and do you want to go grab? You know a bite to eat or it's the coolest thing being able to goaround all of these different cities and and spend time. You know with allof these different women and pick their brains about you know how they do theirjob and and what's made them successful and what they enjoy, what they don'tenjoy and just create those relationets. That's been such a fun fun part of thejob. For me, too, not just being able to you know, go to the arenas and andexperience new cities, and you know see the ABS play different competition,different teams, but also just meeting the other broadcasters and not evenwomen, like all the men in the industry, have been portive and awesome andhelpful as well. So you've Justmi've just met so many cool people Um. Youknow throughout the course of this year and the last year and a half year ataltitude sports and I'm so grateful for it yeah that that' Sisterhood in hockeyI mean, like you, said the men are awesome too, but actually I got theidea for this podcast when I was traveling with the Rangers years ago,because I was meeting these incredible females and I'm like wait. I feel likepeople need to know that there are really awesome women doing cool things,not only in hockey, but obviously in other sports, but also I wanted peopleto know that for the most part like we are all in this together and we allsupport each other and cheer each other on, and I think that that is it'ssomething that not everyone realizes. I think sometimes people look at women inan industry like this and think like. Oh, they must be super competitive andout to get each other, and that's just not the case at all yeah and it'sactually been super refreshing, um learning that too, you know, there'sroom for everybody and I think that's my biggest piece of advice. You know topeople that are coming up in the industry too. It's like it's, not acompetition between people like I feel like everyone will have theiropportunity when, when they're supposed to and just until then support peopleand build people up and learn from people- and you know, give advice butalso take advice at the same time. So I think that that's been one of thecoolest parts for me is just creating and cultivating those friendshipsthroughout the years, not just this last yearith altitude but but even youknow, I was working for the Detroit Pistons for four years and an meetingall the different reporters in the NBA as well as the NHL. You know it's justbeen cool to to see everyone succeed...

...and thrive in their own way, because weall bring something to the table right, not a competition between us. Why notbuild each other up and and all support each other and be help each other be the best reporter inperson that we can be in general. So that's been one of the most fun and coolest in mosteyeopening parts of the job. Definitely it makes it more fulfilling too, whenyou kind of feel like you have people that are on your side and they knowwhat it's like. They are doing the same tind that you're doing comforting tohave that. So I'm glad that you've been experiencing that as well to Pivit.Just so little. You brought up football earlier when we were talking about SanPonder. I know you went to Michigan, so I'm sure you've been following alongwith the college sports news. That's oing Um for those listeners who don'tknow it was announced actually today the day that we're recording the bigten is postponing fall sports, hopefully they're planning on playingin the spring. The packtwelve actually announced the same thing. What are yourthoughts on that yeah? I think it's such a tough and touchy topic Um. I think that it's good that they'retaking the players safety into consideration. Obviously this is suchan unprecedented time. We don't fully understand this coved virus and we're trying to answer all of thesequestions that we don't necessarily know the answers too. Everyone's justtrying to do their best right, the best that they can with the information thatwe have I'm so bombed, though, like football, you know what is fall without football, honestlyNN. I know I I don't know you know watching Michigan football over thelast four years and I funny enough. I grew up a noter dam fan. My Dad wentthere both my brothers went to Noto dam and so I've just always loved footballgrowing up a. How did they let you go to Michigan? No, I know so. I wanted todo something that was a little bit different, but I was like I know so. Iplayed I played soccer Michigan and I got my dad a hat that said Michigansoccer and he wore it for four years and after that I think he threw thatthing in a tr in the trash B'cause. I hav never seen it again. No, buthonestly I don't know, but they supported me through it. I just wantedto go to a little bit of a bigger school. I obviously applied to Michiganwas thinking irmn applied to noterday and was thinking I was going to gothere. My whole life. You know, you know when you're growing up and youhave those little cheerleader, Alfhin panwer when you're like four o five andsix years old, and so I had one of those for notor day like was a hugenotor dame fan, but just just wanted to do something a little different Um. I'm so glad that I did because it'sit's crazy to think you know if you make a different decision in the past.Maybe your future is not going to be like what it is, so I'm so grateful youknow for the experience to go to Michigan and and going to a school inthe big ten and having a big football program like that, but now I'm sobombed that they're not going to be playing but completely understand. WhyUm? You know you got to listen to the health experts so but yea. I so sadthat they're not going to be playing fall. This fall's going to definitelybe a lot different lot. It is cutting that'swhat's it's hard becauseobviously I feel the same way as you I'm bommed, but I also understand youknow and that even that makes it sadder because it's like it's justified, butit still sucks, I mean so many people were looking forward to this fans.Obviously we're looking forward to this, but also just thinking about people andhow their livelihoods depend on working at college games. Everyone fromconcessions stand to people that are taking tickets to the groundscrew tolike, like there are so many little intricate pieces that I don't know it'sit's hard, but at the same time, like you said I I understand. The thingthat's interesting to watch is that only as of today, only the big, ten andpack twelve have postponed.

So as of now yeah, I have a feelingsecs. I have a feeling that SCC is going to play and I know that JimHarbau came out with a statemen and said you know, and who knows if the bigten's going to review and- and maybe you know, y Hake back your decisionyeah, who knows what's going to happen but j? Basically in Jim Harvallstatement, he said you know the players a would be safer if they're playingbecau on they have more access to resources, they have more access totesting and we can take precautions to help keep them safe in they're, notjust being relased into the student body, and so I also see value in thatargument as well. So it's just really hard. I try to be Switzerland in thissituation and just you know soak in as much information as I can, because noneof us really know, but I see Harvols deside of the argument. I also see theconferences side of the argument where you don't you don want to put toentathletes at risk, and so it's tough. I don't know how I feel either way, butI'm just really bond that we're not going to have college football. Thisfob I'm sad. I can't put on my Michigan swetcerd and cheer 'em on and hopefully see I'm in the National Championship,but fingers cross that we can see that in the spring. Well, I usually wouldn'tsee this, but as of now the ACC is playing. So the Florida Stanh Band basewill accept you. If you would like KDOP on board, I'm not exactly sure how goodwe're going to be this yearold Ornot, actually an yer a Wi'll be playing at eight, so I stillhave a Tu tgers nigin room for this fall, we'll see whatgoodthing for you.You actually work for a team that is extremely good and there is hope th.They will be a Sanlyn Cup champion this year. Are you allowed to make anypredictions for which to Tomi am a little bit of a homer? I honestly, I thought that it was goingto be the ABS playing Pittsburgh in the finals. Obviously I was wrong O. Iactually see a lot of potential in this Philadelphia Flyers Seaim. They are tho right now and they have so much talent and so much potential and it'scrazy because they didn't even make the post season last year. So I can see anABS flyers, Um Stanley Cope final, and I think that would be super excitingcool all right, but I hink. What do you think? You know? I honestly haven'tbeen watching very much hockey as of Lahte, which is very sad, but I've beenI've been taking a little bit of a break which is so sad to say, because Ihad all this time to take a break, a e lot, oftimes, it's okay. No, we do wedo and I'm just excited for later rounds. I feel like that's when itreally ramps up, even though I've I've already missed, like a crazy o t game,did that game end by the way 'm watching it right now, so this isTuesday evening they are in the fourth overtime, cllub blue jackets and Taomaylightning. They have played two games today. They have played two games andnow they're in their fourth overtime. This is they don't want to give up thistheyre not living up. They have to be gas right. I know they absolutely awalkup and down a case like a staircase and theyrewe're over here playing sevenpyriods of Hocky. It's inc. It's incredible! It's incredible! So this iscompletely unrelated to hockey, but I saw a clip of you on twitter, singingand playing guitar, and your voice is completely stunning. Can you please putthose challengs on display? More often, why don't we see more of that? Oh mygosh, that is sosweet. Thank you! So much yeah. I was actually super luckythis year. It's better! It's been a really fun. You know hobby to have, andI've got a lot of free time during quarantine. 'cause. I don't know if youknow there wasn't many sports going on. You know throughout the months of Apriland May and into June. So I had a lot of time to play the guitar H, but I wassuver lucky this year, so Um Steve Johnston, whow's in charge of all ofour ingame entertainment at Pepsi Center. I said to him one time as ajoke: I'm like Hey. If you ever need someone to sing the national aunt, andlet me know he wasactually yeah we'll...

...have you try out come on in in twoweeks, we'll have you a sing and see how it sounds, and so I did- and thatwas December fourteenthfish and he's like okay you're in how do you feelabout singing the national anthem on January? Second, the first game ofTwent, a twenty here, a Pepsi Sener Against Stlowis Blues, and I was justlike. Oh my gosh, I'm like yes, let's do it. I've never been so nervousAmanda for anything. In my whole life, like I blacked out, I they were likeNoucingin, the Natihnale aunt on Laura and Jabara. I walked out and I don'tremember anything and I just remember walking off the ice and hearing thecheers. It was the most nerve wrecking thing I've done in my entire life, butsuch a cool experience and so lucky that the ABS and and Steve gave me theopportunity to do that. Really cool really really cool. Had you ever sungthe national anthem in a live event before no, not unless you my shower no,it was like it was. It was: Oh, my Gosh I've, never like you know being oncamera, can be a little nerve ICKI, but after a while you get used to it andyou know what you're talking about, and you know what you're doing. But thiswas such a new unexplored experience for me and I just did not even know howto approach it and oh my gosh, it was so cool, it was O and it's actuallySuper Sad. So I was supposed to sing the national anthem. On Marchseventeenth, the ABS are going to play the San JoseSharks and M. obviously the season was postponed on Margh, twelft or I' March.So iuld have been five days later, but you know it's: Okay, everything happensfor a reason and it was such a cool experience to be able to do that andput that othe resove and just have that as a life experience in generalseriously. That's a bucket list thing. Not everyone gets to do that. That'samazing! It was so cool. Oh my gosh, like I honestly just my heart, startsracing. Even thinking about it, it was so much fun. I always when I watchnational anthems live. I always pay attention to like if they're nervous,because I feel like I would just like faint on the ice. I would I mean Idon't sin, but just singing in front of a huge arena. Full of people soundsterrifying, so good for you honestly, though, like not to get deep about this,but I feel like doing that makes you better at your job because now standingin front of a camera I's like the easiest thing you could ever do. I know- and I think one of the one ofthe things that may be the most nervous is a couple of guys on the team knew Iwas singing and that morning at morning, scape they were like. Don't mess uptonight because you'll never live it down. No, I won' even put that in myHadtheyre, like don't forget the words on so the whole time. I just felt eyeslike searing through me. You know, while I was tinging, I'm like Oh mygosh, I cannot mess up the words right now. Oh my Gosh, oh my Gosh, oh my gosh,so so glad that you know that happened and a it was such a cool experience.T's such a cool experience. That's amazing! Next Stup you can learn OACanada and sing it in French. Oh No! I don't know about the friendsTog I all right Laur before I let you go. Wetalked about this sort of earlier, but the way that I, en the show every timeis, I ask you to leave us with a woman in sports who inspires you, and I knowthat you mentioned Sam, ponder and Catherine tappen earlier. Is thereanyone else that you would like to bring up yeah for sure M Dorisburke hasbeen another one that I've you know always looked up to. I feel like she's,really paved the way, especially in the N B, a and and has done things thatwomen haven't necessarily done before, but opened up opportunities for otherwomen and so yeah. I really look up to herand I think that she is very strong and knowledgeable so steady and good at herjob. You know because of people like her and San Ponder and Cathrine Tapid,it's given us opportunity opportunity to be able to grow and continue to growM, the presence of women and Sports in general, and so it's just really coolto be able to follow, and and people...

...like that footsteps and even the womanwho had the job hered altitude T v before me: Laurand Gardner she's speaka great friend of mine and she's, now working ' a NHLNMLV networks and dzoneand and covering you know, the National Hockey League and Major League baseballas well, and so I look up to her a lot and she just has such a great positiveenergy and attitude and approaches each day with so much gratitude. And youknow that's something that we can all learn and all take with us there's. Somany people, I'm just like like this list, is just going through my headright now. I just don't have time to name Hem all, but you know you just. Ifeel like you, learn so much from every single person that you meet andeverybody that you watch on camera, and especially women in this in the sportsindustry. Just because we're you know a minority, and so it it's just cool tobe able to see all the different ways that that these women are paving inthis industry and be able to follow in their footsteps, and hopefully you knowb be like that someday. So you just continue to strive and get better everyday and and continue to look up to people and grow and learn and justembrace every day with gratitude Um for not only your job, but just you know tobe involved in such a cool community of women and Sports in general. Also, I'mjust so grateful to be. You know one of the few that are that are here,Welyou're doing an awesome job. Thank you! So so much for your time. I reallyappreciate you coming on the show I'm going to be watching throughout thepost season I' excited to see how far the ABS go and I'll be cheering you onfrom a phone. I man to think so much for having me it's been so fun, I'mglad we got this to work. I know we had some audioisjust. This makes it so much better. It'sbeend so much bun chatting with you. Thank you for having me and thinks forstarting a potdcast like this. You know I feel like we all need something likethis to be able to. You know, grow and inspire a and continue to support otherwomen in the industry. So thank you for starting to Thinkyou for having me hope.You have a great week and yeah continued success. I have to say I do a bit of researchbefore I interview any guest, but somehow I miss that laren is anincredible singer. I saw one short clip of her singing to a dog and I had noidea that she was capable of singing the national anthem, let alone havingdone it already in a huge arena before an anagall game seriously so cool. Ijust love Lawren'ce energy. If you watch any of her reporting, she justooes passion and humility, and you can tell that she genuinely loves what shedoes and cares about how the fans learn about their favorite team. I'm so gladI got to learn more about Lauran and if you want to follow along on her journeyand also keep up with her work during the AB's playoffs run, you can followher on titter an instagram at Laurenjabara, and if you want to followalong with this show, you can find me at, and so she goes pod thanks forlistening.

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