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And So She Goes
And So She Goes

Episode 12 · 1 year ago

11. Katie George, ESPN and ACC Network Host & Reporter

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Growing up with two older brothers who rarely let her play outside with them, Katie George learned early on what fueled her-- being told "no". Figuring out how to navigate that word would not prove to be an easy task, but one that would eventually lead to her landing her dream job. Katie is a homegrown, down to earth Kentucky girl who lives and breathes Louisville sports. She grew up there, played college volleyball there, and after a stint in Milwaukee, lives there today. You wouldn't know it watching her give live reports from the sidelines of college football games, but Katie didn't make it to ESPN overnight.

Conversations with real women who makesports happen, this is, and so she goes, here's your host, Amanda Borgis, Hello, I hope you're having a greatweek. I am so glad you're here. If you are new to the show, welcome just alittle bit of background on me before we get started. I am a sportsjournalist with over eight years of experience, working in Florida, N, ycand California, and through my experiences and they're traveling allover the place. I've been inspired by so many women in this industry that Idecided to create a space to share their stories. This conversation is soso good Katy really opened up and had so much goodness to share katy was bornand raised in Louible Kentucky. She will explain her family life growing upwith two older brothers and trying to play sports with them. She has quitethe resume. She Played College Volleyball at Louisville. She earnedall American honorable mention honors. She was the ACC setter n player of theyear as a senior, and she was a three time. First Team: All Conference Player,she won Miss Kentucky in twoenty fifteen and got her start inbroadcasting. Working in local news at WDRB and Loville Katy's personality istruly contagious and her licable persona and expertise in her craft hasreally enabled her to rise to start 'em very quickly. After some time in localnews, she got the opportunity to move to Milwaukee to become the Silandreporter to cover the bucx for the Fox ports offiliate there her story abouthow she got that job and what her interview was like is reallyinteresting. I won't spoil it for you, but if you don't know what comes next,let's just say: Things didn't go as planned once she moved to WisconsinKaty goes into detail about how she interviewed for her dream job at ESPN,working for the ACC network and what it was like to make a jump without feelingready, and I truly believe that you're never really ready for anything. Youjust make the decision to go for it or not, and then you just figure out whatthat decision means to you and you decide what you make of it anyway. Katyis so fun to watch on TV, and we had a blast diving into her journey. Here ismy chat with ACC network and ESPN hostem reporter Kt George Hay Katy. How are you I'm good Manda?How are you I am good IAM good? How are you holdingup where? Where have you hunkered down Durin Cornton? I am only upwelltankeeper asking. I hope you are doing the same. I am in Loble Kentucky. That iswhere I am born and raised. I went to college here and then I've only livedaway from movil a year. I moved to Milwaukee last year and worked for theMiwaki box and then, when I switched back to Yuskan and the ACC network, Irelocated back to my home town to be with my family and friends. So that'swhere I am quorantine currently how about you? So I am based in the bay area inCalifornia, so I'm hungered up here with my boyfriend and my ten month oldgolden retriever, who keeps us very busy for better for worse. I'm actuallyvery thankful to have a dog during this time, because we go on like seventeenwalks a day and he keeps US entertained so it his name is Remi and you're. Veryobsessed with him. That's awesome, did you ever imagine? Did you ever imaginethat you'd be excited to go on so many walks ever in your lifeum? I feel likeI'm answering this for so many people, because I ot wit, so many people thatare like I go on a morning walk a midmorning walk on noonwalk, a two PMand by Pam and eat whatever you know, you do all these walks Um and you knowwhen you're walking in the neighborhood. I don't know if you've seen this too,but there are so many people out which is actually kind of Nice and refreshingto like see your neighbors out and about yeah. I know it totally is, and Idrove eper to my parents and a couple nights ago just to check on an see howthey were doing and their standing outside in their coldesack and everyneighbor is kind of standing in front of their house and they're. All liketen fee OPART, just Talin scatcing out- and I was like this- is so bizarre, butalso super cute- to see all these older people just out hanging out. You knowfrom a distance, but it is it's crazy times. That's for sure it is. It is. Iknow that we joke about the cirks of Quorantine, but obviously we know howserious this is and- and our lives have been affected by it in in so many ways,but I'm I'm glad that we can still find funny ways to you know, keep it lightand stay positive M for those that...

...haven't been keeping up with you thesedays, Katy. What sort of content have you been working on while working fromhome? So I've been doing little things here and there for the asy sce network,social media platforms? We had a big thing about Michael Jordan, as the lastdance was KINDOF coming to an end on Espan EW, the C sc that work to bend awhole day dedicated to his games when he was at UNC, which I thought waspretty cool, so promoting stuff like that. But that doesn't take up a wholelot of my day to day. You know cause it's just little social media postshere and there I'm lucky that right after the super bowl, I was asked tojoin a esp n radio show called the best week ever with Peter Burns on Sundaymornings from seven to ten, and so I d started that right after the superbowl.Before all of this happened- and we were, you know- forced kind of hunkerdown in our homes for shelterind places, and so I was lucky that I had gottenthat start with Peter. It is such a fun show. You know we kindof recap thegreatest, like things that we saw that week, sports related of course, but itjust Das, really good fun feel to it. 'cause Ou know people are driving atChurch on Sundays, where they were driving to church on Sundays at thattime, and so I started that with him in February and then that part laid oncewe went into this quorenteine that SPN radio asked me to start joiningSaturday afternoons on Game Day, and so the weekends right now are kind of. Mybusiest I have a comrex at home, which is s basically, you know a box. If you will that allows me tobroadcast from my home. I talk with Peter on the radio talk with GeorgeSadono or Taylor Twelan or whoever it is that I'm on these shows with and sothat I'm lucky that that opportunity presented itself when it did, becausethat's the only real thing that makes me feel super valuable in this point intime. You know what I mean, because right now, I'm not geting to contributeon a day to day, like I'm so used to with college football and collegebasketball. So so it's been a struggle just of knowing your worth, if you willof like Gosh. What can I be doing? Should I be doing more, I M to reallyhelp in the sports world, but there's just it's so hard, because obviouslythere's not a lot of sports to really cover at the moment, so radio's beengood and then obviously as much social media stuff is possible for the AC Cnetwork. At this time I totally get what you're saying I meanI I've gone through. That I mean I got laid off in February before cobet waseven a thing and immediately I'm like w. What can I do? I still need to I'm acreator like I need to be productive. I need to still tell stories I need to.You know still actively pursue what I'm passionate about, and you know that'show this podcast was born. So I'm so glad that you've been um gettingexperience in radio. I Love Sports Radio. I got my start doing that aswell and Um. It's a it's a great time to do something. That's audioonly andSonyou Cando from home. It's perfect! I it really is. I mean the fact that Idon't have to wake up put hair make up on to sit in front of a camera. That'sgoing to be recording me for the world to see is a beautiful thing, but noradio's been great. I think it's so much fun. It really allows you to showyour personality y. Now you show your personality to an extent on televisionbuth being a sidline reporter predominantly an your moments are areso quick and you know, being concise, is really really important in our lineof work and so to be able to kind of have free form and to speak on Dso manydifferent topics and give your opinions on things while having fun with it hasbeen really enjoyable for me. So I'm lucky that they've giveen me thatopportunity, so there's lots that I want to get intowith you and your background and your journey, but you mention this, so Iwant to touch on it for a second. How incredible has it been to have the lastdance to cling to for some sort of sport action to watch on a weekly basis?I truly I mean now it's over, which is very sad, but for the past severalweeks like that was the highlight of our week. Oh absolutely and fulldisclosure. I have not seen episode ten. I just watch up as im nine before wegot together for this, but episode. Ten is on the agenda after dinner tonight,and it's because on Monda on Sunday night, like I'm religious wat sittingdown and watching it being in front of the T V at nine o'clock, these past fewSundays and R, a that we were streaming on Espnsa was having a really hard timeand we ceddinly sat our routers. My family is texting in the group likeabout different things. Rinstead we arenot, seeing any of it were lakingout like we're beting frustrated, so so is totock was Sundaynight and were like.You know what let just turn off our phones. Let's just watch entaurage orfix the rupper, which is apparently te...

...shows that we're hooked on a the poment. We will just wait till Monday orTuesday to watch. You know the final two episodes, so we're really excitedto watch episode. Ten Min to your point is been so incredible to watch that,not just because there's no life sports right, but for me now I was prettyyoung when he finished his career, and so you know he wont his final JhampionChip, an INTA o know. I think I was four or five years old, and so I get tosee Michael Jordan at the height of his career. He was almost like a myth. In alegend to me, right growing up like you'd, hear all these things Oll theflu game and my parents would talk about him and so to actually get to sitdown and see all those highlights watch some of those games get to hear how hesaw things happen or what went down in certain situations. It's been trulyincredible and it's been so educational for me right, because I knew mygoilJordan as the shoe salesman, growing up and so to KINDOF, get to go back intime. See All this insane footage. Listen to all those older mixed tapes.If you will, I know you're right there with me: It's been really reallyenjoyable, so I'm so glad that Yeskan was able to rush it and pushed it out,because I know everybody was desperately in wanting some kind ofcontent to consume during this time. Absolutely I'm a nineties baby too. SoI completely agree with everything you just said. Okay, let's start from thebeginning Y, you know you mentioned earlier. You grew up in Louisville. Howdid you get into sports? Well, I'd have to credit, my two olderbrothers of that I'm M blessed. I would say at this point to have two olderbrothers when I was growing up, though not so much they're, five and fouryears older than me, and they were brutal. When I was a kid, so you knowgoing in the backyard: no they'd be playing football basketball baseballacross whatever it was after dinner or after school they'd beout there, and so you know from me being the little sister I wanted tohang out with them. You know the my cool older brothers and it was alwaysno you're too small, you're too slow, you're girl, like you're, not toughenough Yo, can't hang out with us and our friends back here, and so my dadwas nice enough to kind of practice free throas with me on my own or kickthe soccer ball or for the football you know through e Sotball, and so wetogether kind of grew me as an athlete. And so finally, you know when I was, I don't know. Like eight nine years old,my brother started picking me over some of their friends to play in backotegames and because I was better than them and so that kind ofcompetitiveness was always inme at a young age, and I really thanked themfor for kind of instilling that and igniting that in me now, as I got older, I was playing basketball softballpredominantly and then I just kind of happened to play volleyball on a whimjust to help out my school team. They ed an extra player right to be able tocompete that year, and so all my friends were doing it and I decided tojoin and boy. I fell in love with that game. I mean when I was paying softball.I thought that's what I wanted to play in college and I was a pitcher rightfrom a young age. Well, then, girls started getting bigger, startinggetting stronger. I have chicken legs and I wasn't able to like whip. Theball hid across the plate as fast a some of the other girls. They move e,the outfield which, as fine I love beings in her field. But the ball comesto you. What, like you know, four or five times a game. I didn't like thefact that I wasn't, apart of every single play, like I'm kind of a controlfreak in that way, and I want to be able to dictate the outcome if thatmakes sense, and so volleyball presented that for me, because you getto touch the ball every single play, and so I kind of fell in love with thegame. There Um, you know, started playing AU volleyball. Oddly Enough Amanda Levls, like ahotbed for volleyball we've, got three female high schools. I went to one ofthem that are usually ranked in like the top tin top fifteen in the nationand so volleyball's really really competitive, atd Lova, and so I waslucky to kind of grow up here and stumble upon it and then ultimately geta scholarship to go and play at the University of Loville, which was anunbelievable experience for me, geting to play my home town that is so cool. What a fun story Iactually can relate to on the softball thing I quit when I was nine, because Iwas so bored in the Outfield, because we ne that age and no one is hittingthe ball out EXCTL. It's just not happening bag, dandylions, aoan, loo,cloucs engaged when you're old, er noos, but but not that time, that's for sure,not at all and what a full circle thing for you I mean playing at a collegiatelevel. You now cover collegiate sports. I feel like that. Playing at that levelteaches you certain life lessons, and, and now you can relate to theseathletes that you're covering...

...you know, it totally does, and I didn'tthink that it would to the effect that it has helped me in my career. Like youthink, Oh you know I want to be a broadcaster. I want to be abroadpastarn as your plan going through sports, like you think, it'll help, butuntil you're actually walking the walk and seeing how it helps you. I didn't know that it would impact mycareer as a broadcaster as much as it has. I mean you learn so many thingsright, like team work, being one how to motivate other individuals, you gothrough interviews yourself as the athlete talking to local media orwhoever it may be, and then I think, there's just hat a respect level right.So No, I didn't play college football. Noinan play professional, Baskelalnenba,O R in e NFL, but I think the wind athletes here that you ere a successfulcollegied athlete and whatever sport you were in there's a level ofrerspective. Oh so she's been through some things or no. She must be a hardworker or she knows what it means to sacrifice something. He knows so H,she's been behind the curtain if you will- and so I really found that youknow when I was in local News After College here in Louisville. First I wascovering movile athletics every day, and so I knew so many of the athletesB'cause Ihad just graduated. So that gave me you know a tremendous leg upand I knew all the coaches M of different sports 'cause I'vd been oncampus for four years, so that definitely helped me. But then, when II moved on from WDRB, which is a Fox offilia and Loville, and I moved toMilwaukee. You know I thought there's no chance like they ever asked me anypersonal questions like these players. Could you know care at all that Iplayed college volleyball, but when you are covering a team and youare theirsideline reporter and you're traveling with them and you're on their teambuses and you're on the plane and at the hotels, you really get to know alot of these guys, tcause you're talking to 'em all the time and a lotof 'em. You know started askn me questions about M my volleyball careerand what that was like, and I think it it. It helped me build great repportswith those guys, because there was a level of respect there of hey. You knowshe's competed at the the highest level for her sport and she knows what ittakes to be good and she respects what we do every single day, and I thinkthat that goes a long way and now that I'm back in the ACC, you know it's sofunny. Like I walk into macbrown's, you know office and heas like thereis, thatgirl there's the AC c player over the yer. I need to have you talk to talk tomy players come down and give a pep tolk. You know, like that's so glattering, to hear just that.They recognize that you know, and it's it's a really nice thing to be able t tstrike up conversation with a lot of these coaches and players. You knowllsit down with a player from George attack or Saracues and and they'll say.Oh, I didn't I didn't realize you wait to lovel like what years were you thereand what was volleyball team like and did you Everwin aaes title and and soit's an easy ice breaker, I think and so yeah. It really has some full circle,which is it just pretty crazy to me. I was very happy when Lousville may be bemoved from the Big East Ben into the American and then into the ACC. So Iwas lucky enough to play in three different conferences, but two years inthe ACC, and that was huge for me- that's seriously the best kind of icebreaker because for those who have never had to interview any athlete atall, but college athletes, specifically not everyone's at comfortable talkingon camera m and for you to just be able to talk about something that theyunderstand from the Getgo helps you and that athlete tremendously I just I justfeel like being able to relate on a human level, is so important in thisbusiness, and that's awesome that you have that yeah. It's definitely beenhelpful. That's for sure. So there are a lot of people in thisindustry that get their start at a local news station, which is exactlywhat you did. What you mentioned before m. can you just talk a little bit aboutthe INS and outs of local news? What was that experience like for you? Oh Iwould love to talk about the Inyou know. I listened to many of your episodes andI was I thought. Laura Ruttlinge Kindo hit the nail on the head and likeeverybody's path, up the ladder, if you will in this industry so different, andso I always was fascinated just talking to anybody and everybody I could, whenI was in high school and college, looking ahead, that knowing that thiswas something that I wante to do o Yor just asking them. How did you get towhere you are right and everybody is so different? Some peoplesaid Yep. I started onlocal news, then I went to a regionnetwork. Then I wentto a national network like those were the three steps that I was falling.Some people scoffed a go into local news because things are so digital. Nowthey are like. Oh my gosh just create content. You know, go work for the golfchannel, but you know the go: Chanel,...

...dotcom and just promote you know socialmedia about it. Videos and everybody tells you something different becauseit's workd for them right, and so I didn't really know what the bestroute was going to be. For me, I just kind of stumbled upon it because when Iwas a freshman at Loville, my coach, she played at Loville and she was fromthe city as well, and she said to me you know what are you thinking you wantto major in what Yeu thinking he want to do, and you know I said since I'vebeen thirteen, I want to be a sports broadcaster want to be Silin reporterfor to some degree, and she said well. Why don't I introduce you to a girlthat I played with N in high school that went on to Notedan and playedshe's now the news director at Tho c BS asfiliate here in town and I was likeyeah, I would love it o take her to coffee. You just want to learn whilethat coffee turned in her offering me an internship, and so I immediatelystarted my first bring semester at Loville as an intern for wwky here intown, and it was awesome. I was a total grunt. You know you carried the camera,you edit all that it. It was on tape back then edit totap, which is as crazyto think about, and so I did that old four years I enter with them everyspring and it was such a great learning experience. It helped me get to meetwith all the different coaches, whether that was at Kentucky Indiana WesternKentucky Bellerman, which is a detruict school here in town, and so that thatwas huge for me to kind of build relationships and really see what localnews was all about, because you know, I think, the first day that the sportsdrector Fred Cowgai said what do you want to do when, like whatas, youringoal and as well wanover for your spiin and he started laughing and hesaid Yg you and everybody else and like right there. You know, I told you aboutmy brothers n right there when he said it using one percent works for your pinlike this is a hard job. Not Everybody gets there. You probably won't getthere and I was like that's all I needed to kind o hear and I was Licooked. I was like watch this I'll get there eventually. Idon't know how long it'll take, but I'm going to do my damn this to get thereand local news he was not lying is so hard,and so I, when I graduated, I had an offerfrom W. Ok Wy were I anturned and then the Fox of filiate offered me a job aswell and said: Why don't you jump ship and come work for us, and so that waslike the first hard to really really hard decision. I had to make and lifewas like. Okay, do I remain loyal to this group of people who have trainedme for four years and spent so much time. Helping me, or do I go to Fox,which is their biggest competitor in town. Bhat, has offered me a betterpath than envisiond what they wanted for Mehey comebe in the sportsdepartment, as a reporter were rolling out anew. Eleven o'clock show sportswith sports CAS in the eleven o'clock show will be two and a half minutes. Wewant you to be that anchor. I could have been an anchor. You know right offthe bat, and so I jumped at that chance and there were some other members ofthat sports department over a wdrb that I thought would be really advantageousto learn from, and so I made a really hard decision and I switched my eyewent over to local news at wdrb and I think it was honestly the best thingfor me it is a character brilder. That is whatI will say like. It is not glamorous like all my friends, you know when Imeet Hem out, you know on a day off or after work like bit. We just saw you onT V. Neo looks so grey like it looks if your jab must be so much fine. You sawme for two minutes. You saw me a few minutes and Heran make Euto the tenhours of me and boots trucking through the mud in the rain, walking a mile toget to a football game based on where you park, with the tricod and thelaptop in the live view and all this stuff, and so it was such a grind. Imean there were days men like I would call my mom driving back from myblooming tin, India. After covering like an I basketball game, and it wasyou know, going on like a twelve hour day and we were up against the gun. Youwere trying to send back your highlights and your report. You know ina matter of twenty minutes before I had to get on air an and you're stressedall the time, and I would call my mom crying in the car like I don't know howlong I can do this. This is such a grind like how do people even get theirbreaks? You know, but at the same time, ould stakestepped back and realized. I was very lucky to get to start in a market likeloville it'so, my hometown. I supported my family and friends and I didn't haveto go to a hazard of Kentucky or or a Potont town. That's really really smalland build my way up. You know I felt like I, I kind of skipped a couple runsin the ladder because of the relationships I built through college, but had I not spent two and a halfyears in local news, I don't think I would ever be in the position that I'min now because look on news. You do so...

...many live shots like you are alive allthe time in that. I think it's like baptism by fire, which it is so hugebecause then I made the move to the box in Milwaukee. All I'm doing is live games like I' E.I've never been a sideline reporter at that point, like everything it alwaysdone, was live reports or taped and, like now, you're being thrown intoeighty two games and every report, every interview you do is on live TVand it's Kindo like well spread your wings go see how you do like workersinkers Wim exactly and had I not done the local news for two and a half years.I think I really would have sein, and so I think that that training was invaluable early onin my career totally and, like you said before it was a character builder, and I trulythink that now, when you look back like all of that, experience just makes youfeel so grateful for where you are today, because it really that time waspart of the building block to get you here, and maybe you wouldn't get towhere you are today. If you hadn't of rinded it out through the mud and allthese you know local high school football, and all of that I mean ittruly is a grind, and I love how Yo brought up all your friends we're like.Oh, my Gosh, you have the Cold Job Amer. I just saw you on t V. People see you for the best two minutes of your daylike that is like thee at one time where you're the most put together. Youobviously like speak very well because you've, preppe and you've done all ofthis homework like no one saw and still to the state. No one sees all the hardwork and the prep that goes into what you do Um, so it is important to just like remaindedicated to your craft, because if you do it for fame and for for what otherpeople see, then it's it's never going to satisfy you it truly now not no! No.I remember I was at a Kentucky Vanderbelt game and I had loved thecamera down the sidelines back and forth in fourth for four or five hours,and then it was time for me to set up my trion. You know you by yourself: Youdon't have e Camraman Ecause, I'm standing in front of the camera. Youknow three to one get ready to do my whole piel and oring Downran S, I'm sitting there like Oh, my Gosh,and this beautiful woman. She had you know rain jacket on. She starts walkingtowards me with her cameramams and Shewas from Nashville, and she said Iknow you hate this now, but keep your head down and keep working hard. Shesaid it will pay Ou and she kept walking, never got her name, never knewwho she was, but it just meant a great deal to me tohear that in that moment, ecause it's kind o like you're thinking. Why am Idoing this like this ti terrible? I in this pouring rain, my hair 's a totalmass. At this point I ut report together, I'm still under the gun andit which is really encouraging hearing that from her because she was in abigger market. She had a cameramen, wit her and it kindof showed like you know,there is a light at the end of the tunnel if you continue to work hard andso now, for me, it's it's cool to get to meet women inlocal news. When I go to different places for games right ECAUSE, Iremember sitting on the floor of Reparina in Lexington and Cayleyhartongue would walk by when she was at. Has S network and Laura rutletge wouldgo stand under the basket Maria Taylor and then the LT names go on and on andstanding on the basket with the FIG camera and the lights on 'em and thereI am sitting there with this big thirty pound camer. On my shoulder, I'msitting on my butt on the baseline and you just think gosh like I feel I feellike a peasant. You know like I feel so little and I want to be big like themright and it's hard to to see that 'cause. It'sit's right there in front of you, but I think at the same time it continues tokeep you motivated for what's out there, what possibilities there are for you inthis industry, and actually this is just speaks to Cayley harttongue. Itold that story to somebody when I got the ACC network job and and moved toEukin, and I told him about you know watching Caley hard tongue at reparenaand she texted me and she said Wel now, people Arin me watching you, I beosinner or nomewhere else whatever arena may be, and so that was really nice andshe, I you know if you ever need anything. Let me know because Yo knowshe also had to build her way up, and so I tried to talk to as many women inlocal news. You know whether I'm in Winston Salem for a wake forestbasketball, game or North Carolina or wherever it may be, 'cause Ou know weall have to start somewhere and it's it's a ladter. That's for sure that youhave to climb well and that's the thing everyone starts somewhere and you don'talways know everyone's story. So when you're, at what you consider yourbottom, like the first year of your ladder, ISO hard to see, pass that andand the most important thing to...

...remember, if, if whoever's listeninghappens to be at that point in any career, really is like when you look atthe people at the top like just because you don't know everything that they hadto do to get there like. Please just know that they've had to do a lot toget there, no Oneder theangraduates from college and becomes a CEO or worksfor ESPN like that, just it doesn't, it doesn't happen, but for you at all paidoff, I mean you're working hard on local news and then all of a sudden youget the opportunity to cover the NBA. You move to Milwaukee and you work forthe bucks. Now I have experience on the team side as well, and there's reallynothing like that. No, there is not. I had no idea what Iwas walking into. I got a call. I was ATEWRV. I was editing together somefootball package and my agent who I just kind of signed. WITSAID: Hey. Canyou be in Milwaukee in two days and I reslike I said for what and they hesaid. Will the Milwaukee box sideline eporter they're, looking to fill theposition and they'd like you to come up an interview- and I remember thinkingto myself is that is that the team that has Carl Anthony towns on it, theMINNESO EPTEMBER ONSI IA, no ol perception sta up there like I was so in over myhead, and so I was like yelike. Are they in a quizman on the team? I E. DOI need to drinee to know everything about like and he was Ono just Yo k goup there and show a personality. But yes, you need t y? U Need to prep alittle bit, and- and so I am studying to the wee hours, you knowo forty eighthours, I'm sitting on the plane going up to Milwaukee Yanes Onte totctanslike listening to you to video I', like Oh, my God. How am I o say this SuperStar's name like the minute I buter the minute that there to say this girl isnot for US Yoas, I'm so nervous. I had terrible terrible travel delays. Ithought they were going to tell me to forget about it, and so I had to call'em and said I'm not going to get in until like six thirty tonight and theysaid we will wait, but we cannot do it tomorrow. You have to get here todayand so I got up there driver picks meup. He says wherere you going. I said tothe bucks headquarters or whatever. There are front offices and he said, ohtakes us, it takes US fifteen minutes, downtowns super small. I, as I perfect,I need to gether as soon as possible, put my heels on in the car trying tolike wipe the sweat off from the dam. My makeup I can run at this in amAtwono MSS and we gone to standstill of traffic on the highway. There has beena semi that has turned over Adiam. Like this. I was I text my mom. This is asign. I am not soslogloval like clearly. This job is not in the horizon for meand she was like just calm down: Nti N. They were, they were so nice. Theystayed and they waited for me an. I don't think I G T got there till likeseven thirty or something my interview. Mano was like ten minutes Ansi. Oh my gosh. I come all theway uphere at ten minutes like it was terro. What did they o Enyou do so I met witha couple of people, Barry bomb who was intergpr great guy. He asked me themost questions as well as a guy named Nick minroe O was in charge of socialbut ther President Peter Fagen, who I just love to death. He walks in midwaythrough my interview, introduces himselves, sits down D, says: Okay,I've got to run, but are you a nice person and I staid like I was kindo taken backand he was like Isay yeah, I'm a really nice person like. I think all mycoworkers would tell you that they love word you of me, I'm so fun like I'm aculture. Kid like you know what whatever this culture, I know is reallyimportant to you. 'cause I've read about him. You know on the plane on theway off, I said I will fit Ingrat O' a te player on know, play sports whateverand he as Lik Great Oky, any questions for me and I was like just shocked likeOh yeah, it came up o Li list of five questions to ask en to the meeting solike I'm stumbling music. Okay, it well great to meet you good luck, we'll talksoon, hopefully and then just leave, and I was like Ol, my goodness, there'sno chance and then literally they calld me three days later and said: Hey canyou be here in two weeks: The arena g? We like you to be here, and so my momGod bless her her and my dad packed up my apartment in Lousville 'cause. I hadto get up there. I was staying in a hotel for the first month that I wasworking and then I moved into my apartment in downtown Milwaukee and it was such a blast like looking back on it. I I signed a thryear contract up there and I fully intended on being there for three yearsbecause I loved it so much. Oh it just so happens. They had the great creakand they won sixty games last year and made the eastern converert finals. Ireally thought we were going to and N B finals against the wars like it wasjust a total blur and such a highlight...

...in my life, but when this opportunityarose to come started atwork that happened to be the ACIC network andwhich I played in. I knew very, very well. I've been toall those schools through my time playing volleyball, also within es PN,so there's opportunity to do more within the company. You know it wasreally hard because I'v built so many great relationships. The team was so lokey. The guys were great. They were so easy, enjoyable to hang around andinterview and just cover, and then my actual TV crew, Jimpashy, MarcusJohnson, Steve Novack. The guys that I worked with on our foxports Wisconsincrews were so good. I texh Jimpasky who's significantly older than me. ITok them almost every other day to check end to see how he's doing duringthis time, but and just at the end of the day, it made a lot of sense for meto leave early and to take this opportunity that was presented to meout of thin air is what I felt like yeah. So, let's talk about that, I Ihave to tell you about a specific moment that sticks with me. That mademe really like you from afar ecause we've never met before no ave. You mentioned you were with thebucks for a short amount of time, and then you get this ACZ network gig sortof out of the blue, and when that happened, you posted a very emotional video. It was genuine,it was real and it was graceful all at the same time. For those who don't knowwhat I'm talking about when Katy left the buck to join ESPN, she posted avideo saying goodbye, two Milwaukee Bux fans and the team and her coworkers,and it was just so beautiful. How would you explain how you werefeeling during that time? I imagine it to be just a whirllind, it was, and I appreciate that very muchabout the video I remember one of our inturns went over to the practice Wiiliwith me, and I said you know this is Mygobivideo and Husicaly what Nusic?Yes, so I'm I'm leaving, and so he was like. Oh my gosh. That was the firstthat he was hearing oer and I said we're going to do this in one take. Isaid because I know I'm going to cry and like I can't do it again, so I waslike if we don't get through this like this one time, then this will never seethe light of day like 'cause we're just not going to do it again, and so he wasso cute. I me he' in this college Gan and he's like Wanti me to sit there andfollw my eyes and crying. So luckily, though, I felt good about it to heextent I was like you know, we got it done a one tak. I think I hit oneverything that I wanted to and Y. I I wanted to show my appreciation foreverybody that had really touched my life in a quick ten months, but it wasinteresting right. I had started. I moved up in August to twenty eighteenfor the start of the season and we were in Detroit. U We just wrapped up shootaround Um, for we were win to play the Pistons that night- and this was inJanuary. So I'd only been on the job a couple of months and you know how youget instogram requests. It's not like somebody that you follow alike thatgoes nere, immediate, direct messages. Why I don't usually undercheck myrequests and so randomly, though I got on alernt on myphone and I just wiped it open right while Itwas a request, and so it tookme to that portion of the direct messages and it said Hi Katy, and hehates that I felt the story but said Hukin. This is Patrick Donnere from ESPwould love to talk, shoot me an email and then he gave hisLina and it had an ESPN dotcom at ESPN, tcom, email address, and so I mely shotto my new agent. At this point- and I said Jeff: Oh my Gosh Shak him y meancatfish, like I don't want her reson or I don't want to hemail this person ofthe Doso. I conld Hav put it on Suach Amedi, an e like, Oh, my ae, gorge selfforit like and he was like. No, no, no, we know Pacdrak like you need to refondright ow and I as sing okay, sorresponded and that night or the nextnight I spoke Patrick and he mentioned Theo te network and that you now theywere looking for. People were strong ties to the ACC meebing one of Hem.They were considering me potentially Forgei'm a multiple, a multitude ofroles. If you will- and so he said, he'd loved to meet, and so thenext week we're in Brooklyn to play the Brooklyn Net, and so he hofked on thetrain. He said he was in town for business. So we met for coffee andIERBE honest at that time when he presented what he saw for me. I waslike there's no way like I love my job. We are killing it. These guys are sogood like we could easily wint a championship this year, like I just gothere also, I just moved like there's no chance that I'm going to leave for thestart of this network where almost...

...sounded like they didn't, really knowwhat they had in store for me, but it could be whatever I wanted it to be.Anto like that scares me where they're like you can do whatever you want to dolike. If you want to do volleywayl, Inin, O football, you could do a lot ofthings and I I like. I need you to give me a plan like what do you want me todo like each year? You know just too too controlling, and so I need sturtureyet structure serusly and I called my age and I was Likeno cance Yeai Woan gowell. He Gott know what gray like he said. Some good things I'm interestedthat, like I'm, not that interested, so I think we should just like put it tobed. He was like okay, and so fast forwardto April were back up in New York, playing the nexs and ESPN. An asked me to come out toBristol up on the train, come out on one of my off days that we had in thecity and to to actually audition, and so I'm I'mout there crunching all these scrips together. Looking at high lights metwith a couple people for lunch, then they they put me in the sports centerroom to audition at the desk, and I mean I am like freaking out right andso I'm sitting behind a desk and waiting for them to get ready like t e,the people in the control, room and stuff and Camamen- and I remember like my l legs- were shakingmy hands ar so on my ice, sweat so much it's crazy, and so my hands are alwayswetding, but they war wenning more so because I Asher visit this Sim andememersing Kittyit', like you love your job that you have right now, Eleso whathappens Hav! You totally botch this like in you'R Terrle, like it doesn'tmatter y. You have a job that you will absolutely love so os like go out hereand have some fun like this you're sitting in the sports in or frucking.You Know Room Studio Right now, and so that kind of helps to soothe mecall my nerves. I still think I watched it to a degree like the thetoleprompter stopped working in the middle and I didn't keep going 'cause.They were like hey. If something happens, hiy starred over well, thenthey were like no just keep going and like the telepromker wasn't working-and I was just like- oh my gosh, maybe theyd did that on purpose to see likehow I adapt. You know, which I did not. I would fail in adaptation at thatmoment, but I remember of Patrick afterwards.You know drove me back to the train station to t to help on the train, andhe said what did you think? I said why Dodn't think it went very wellpersonally. You know I haden't anchored in a year 'cause with the box. I wasjust a silight importer, so I wasn't sitting at a desk hosting anything, andI said so that was, it was definitely rusty, but hopefully guys like mypersonality, like like my ties and Y, you know you think that there'ssomething there, but if you don't like, I absolutely love my job so m. You know I'm not going to be too worried aboutit, and I think that it was a bit nonchalot of me to come it it like that,but I I genuilely loved Milwaukee, and so you know I didn't think much of it.I'm sitting a shoot around next week and may were getting ready togo to Boston for the playoffs Secoon I the playoffs, which is huge time and myaged galden said so. YOUV got the job. I was lie, wait what and he was acursthe offer, and I was like what am I going to do like. I don't think I canturn that down. ND USIC, I don't think you can either and like honestly mint.It was that week and a half I mean my Seni Werwas just Li. That was a pit I had not to my stomach. I feel good. You know because I didn't want to leave,but I was in moon. Everybody you know in my corner was telling me that thiswas a great opportunity and it could turn into something really special, even though what was happening inMilwaukee was special, and so I ultimately sat down with Peter Fagen. IHadn sleep the night before 'cause I was so I felt guilty Wright. You feelguilty like even having a conversation with somebody else. Ily made acommitment, Yeah D. I fully intended to see that through, and so I just went in-and I said, do a moment and like I'd like you,Sarah his assistant, we were a really good friend, she's phenomenal and Ilike had tis schedule time right. Like T, can I have fifteen minutes of Peterstime like he put it on on the book and She Li Everything? Okay, 'cause.Usually I just like pop in there right s, r Ar do something. Thas UCASIIformally schedule it and, like all t, the offices of there glass, likeeverybody, can see you SI. I ily start tearing up and he's like what's goingon and I was like somebody over a job like I'm. So sorry, like I don't knowwhat to do, Andes lie. W E go Ron. He D Saithis is a good thing. Why are youcrying e Wassto right now, Gosh, we can see you and like e Needwe went to do inR ior. I rit since give me the parameters like what are we workingwith. Who is what do they want to do and, and he was so cool- I mean he. Hewas so great about it, just kind of advising me not as somebody that heemploys but imbising me Os somebody...

...that he wants to see do well in thefuture and ultimately he and I decided that we thought what span an as networkwere offering for me Um. It was a great opportunity and he said like I couldnever hold you to not taking that and so like, then, you feel even worse,because you're like I am currently working for such good people, like N, Ohow he reacts like. Why would you ever want to leave you know and so like? Itwas just really really tough Um to the point that I think, like my my parentsand my brothers were probably in the way talking to me about it as many days.You know I call like every day like wishy washy, but I am so glad that I made thisdecision because you know with this acy scee network. I get to do college sideline forfootball, which is cute to never cover football like that before mobby saged,to Cover College Basketball, which ACC I think his king has been king for along time and that realm. But then I also got to be an analyst for collegevolleyball. What I play I got to sit in the analests chair, all fall and callGames which was so much fun, and then they thought I did a good enough jobthat they asked me to call the regionals finals in Bayler at Baylor one spn, not the as C network, and so that was awesome. And then you know Icovered climson Ye Hav four times this season. So when they were preparing forthe National Championship, Sports Center. Callt me and said: Hey Wi, godown to to Climson and do a couple of reports first for two days before theyleave for Baten Rouge and like R yeah, Ba Wer, yea hat n Rooge, and so I wasjust thinking t New Orleans. Wherever I don't even know at this point. NewOrleans I think, is wor Bater whereelse he is and so but like getting to dothose kind of things I wouldn't have been able to do that. I thoughtwordsdisconsiner with the box, and so I get to wear many different hats. Isometimes get to go up to Bristol and anchor an host of the desk, and so Ithink it allow me o really versile and to do a lot of different things. I'mdoing radio now ike w spoke about earlier. So it's been, it's been areally good change and obviously I get to lit at home with my family andfriends and ju t fly out for my different gigs and it it's been achallenge. It's been different. It's trickier, I think, navigating whenyou're just getting to see your cruise on the weekends foryour games or foryour games. Whereas with a box you were traveling with the teams, you werealways with your people so y. They feel like your family threthere's bits ofthat with the national level, but not as much as you're, not always withthese people, but t it's been a really good change and I think a greatopportunity for me and I think it was ultimately the right decision, eventhough it was the hardest decision I've ever made inmy life. You know it's crazy is if you got a chance to tell your youngerselfthat one day you would get your dream job, but you would almost turn it downlike you. Your younger self would be like what no way Wan no way that, likeI would ever be put in a situation to almost say no to Esp n the thing thatI've been working for for so long. It's just crazy. How I don't know life is just soinpredictable like you. Just have no idea how things are going to happen andand there's no, the one thing that I've learned, especially in this season likethere's no such thing as the right time, things happen and you have to make achoice for your life: either you do it or you don't, and then you need todecide how you're going to be OK with either the yes or the no and so they're. Speaking to that,there's one thing that sticks with me. I had sage steel on the show a coupleof months ago and she said you're never really ready for ESP n. Did you feelthat way going into it? I defintly n't felt ready, and it's sofunny. You say that because, as we were talking about this topic conversationwith my middle brother, Charlie Poltinto, my head, he lives in Chicago,and so you know Milwaukee in Chicago about an hour and a half different, sowall. This is going on. I drove down to Chicago to have dinnerwith he and his wife and we were having a drink before his wife got off workand to metus at the restaurant, and we were just kind of talking through itand he said to let me ask you something: he said your contract with the basisthree years. He said in three years. If e SPN offered you this job to join theAC C network, would you take it and I said welld Ike absolutely I'd be ready,then, like I'd be ready in three years and he was like no you're ready nowthey think you're ready now like what what's the point of you wasting notwasting but waiting two more years to know what you're doing when they thinkyou're ready now like you, could be building your career within skin in theACC network. Now at your age rather than in three years from now, and thatprobably that conversation and advice...

...stuck with me, maybe the most was I e.If you would take it in three years, why wouldn't you take it right now?Exactly I didn't have any answer for it, and so because I didn't have any answerfor it, you know I thought you've Gotto do this, because you don't want toregret it look back and regret it for sure, because Wenit this opportunityisn't there and three years an doubtful would have been, but I think thebiggest thing for me to your point is I just gotten comfortable in Milwaukee,I I just made a big transition. Fom Me person and moved away, fom, my familyand friends. For the first time, I'd left local news where I feltcomfortable. I was a sideline reporter for the first time ever. I love thosepeople now you're asking me to do it all. Over again, I Gott I becomeuncomfortable Agang, get pushed on on my comfort zone again so soon- and nowI think, was the scariest part for me and the fact that I didn't think that Iwas necessarily ready and Hell. I don't even know if I'm just like ready now,just m cat kind to figure it out right into Ike Ito olike after a game. I'mlike you not perform well tonight, like I'm very hard on myself and M. Thosereports were not great, like your delivery could have been better like.Maybe this is you feel like you're, not ready and then there's ther other gameswhere I ike. I knock it out of the park and it's like now. You are ready. It'sjust finding that consistency. You know, and I think that that that's what yousee with season veterans and obviously I'm not at that point of my career yet,but I'm hoping that y trend that way well, you would never know. I thinkthat you are so graceful on camera and genuine and authentic, and that speaksvolumes because you can tell when people are faking it or you can tellwhen people don't really know what they're doing and Um it's whateveryou're doing is working, so we all have self self doubt. I know that you knowthat, but um just try to stay positive, honestly t the biggest questionmark Ihave now is like for me. I I've been out of oncamerawork for a few months, but like everyone's going to be rusty oncesports coming back, because we had done it for so long. So it's like everyone'sin the same boat. All of a sudden that is no joke. Like an honest concern thatI have I. I have Um this sponsorship that that I do for social media herelocally and they had me come out and do a video on Instragram for just like acouple of stories right and I the smoker yes, okay yeah. So I have thisspartnership with this card iealarship in town and in theyre, great ut, OA hat.This is not getting in the weeds, but basically they give away the smokerwith a car. If you purchase it Ka Aa', this whole romotional thing Garta, butthey wanted me to come out and show case the smoker Oka, I'm not a hugebarbeer, I'm not a girl master, but I was like you know, I'm Goin to havesome fun with this, but I literally said this is good that you guys arehaving me do this, because I haven't been on camera in so long like this isgoing to keep me from not becoming rusty like just doing little socialmedia hits on on something as small as a pit barrel cooker. I I think it was just like so funnythat I was like. Oh, my desti better not become rusty. You know what this isaway. Youre Stolen Camera, like let's get back to the basics and tune up alittle bit because you're so right come fall. Like I don't even know what a camera lookslike at this point on a red light, so it's going to be interest. It'll comeback and I like riding a bike, and you know whaafood network better, be payingattention to your content right now, because you now, you could totally do agrilling show or something I can see that guy see anything with food, I'mall in so SUNA in calling Yitud be something I'd have to sit and thinklong hard about all right. Can you leave us with awoman in the industry who inspires you? It can be a colleague or even someonethat you've never met, but someone amazing that I could have on the show. You know I think you would reallyreally enjoy. Laurellige is one of the first ones, th t that comes to mind andshe was pivotal: CIVITAL NM, making t e jump from the Bucx to ESPNACC, becauseshe left the San Diego Baseball team at bepadres to take on the SE C Rol, andshe that we've never met in Persy N, but we've talked a few times and shewas so graceful. So obviously, You'e already had her one person that Iworked with for a Superbowl Watch party that I was just balown away, Bi justhow ferstoff sweet she is, but freisty and she is hilarious. I would love tohear apotgus with you and her is El Duncen. Obviously he is nat her anchor,but she is so so funny I I could just sit there and listen to her all day andI think that you would really enjoy having a conversation with her. I lovethat I really love that Truly Katy like...

I could talk to you for hours, Orr, somanystaries that I would love to hear from you. But thank youfor coming on. I really appreciate it. This conversation has been amazing andI can't wait until sports return so that we can see your face on t v again.I appreciate it so much o think you prob Meto, Vben, so much fun and an youcan't think of other guys, which I know there's tons. An son doctor have me onfor a second time. ECAUSE, I loved us. Thank you AMATTA. What's that cheesy thing, people don'tsay anymore time flies when you're having fun yeah. I know Super Cheesy,but I really hated andding that chat with Katy. She was like an open bookand her stories about the box and how she left Herspan and her feelingsduring all that it was just really fascinating and for those of you whodon't work in sports, I hope you could relate to the part where we talkedabout not being ready. Everyone goes through at least one point in theirlife, where they don't feel ready for something and they're. Faced with thedecision to try anyway or mame, go in a different direction, so I hope Katy'swords hit home for you and I'm so glad you stopped by to hear her story feelfree to fall along with my story on social media a and so she goes podthanks for listening.

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