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And So She Goes
And So She Goes

Episode 2 · 1 year ago

1. Alyssa Lang, SEC Network, ESPN Host and Reporter

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

While covering the SEC Men's Basketball Tournament in Nashville this past week, SEC Network Studio Host and Reporter Alyssa Lang gets the dreaded news that sports are cancelled. She talks about the current uncertainty in all sports because of Coronavirus, and we talk about her start in the sports industry. She also sheds light on how she balances personal life with a demanding career.

Conversations with real women who makesport top this is Andso. She goes. Here's your hose, Amanda, Morti, hello, hello. So a lot has happened inthe last couple of days in the sports world, I had a plan for who my firstguest would be, and then that totally changed once sports got canceled. Thatbeing said, I am very eccated for my first real episode of this podcast andI thought it made sense to talk to a dear friend of mine who works in thetrenches of college basketball if you're, an sec fan or just a collegesports fan in general, you've probably seen her interviewing players andcoaches, giving sideline up dates and hosting shows in studio. She was mostrecently in Nashville covering the SEC men's basketball tournament and in ourconversation she explains exactly how she learned. The tournament wascancelled due to corona virus, and she gives them insight into what othersaround her were feeling and what theyare supposed to do moving forward.We also get into how she got her first full time, job in sports, spoiler alert.She was still a college student at the time and we even dive into dating life.A little bit here is my chat with ESPN and SEC network hoastand, reporterElisalang Hialysa, hello, how's it going Don'car. How are you I'm very good? We just spent likethirty minutes catching up before we even started recording. So I feel likewe're. We're good and ready to GTO go poby got all the duty stuff out of theway. Really. We did, unfortunately for um the listeners, but we had a lot tocatch up on even before all of this craziness happened, and I want to getinto all of that. We have to start with...

...a hot topic: All sports are canceledElisa, but for you it's a huge deal because you've been covering collegebasketball before everything got shut down. So just take me to the beginning:Where were you when you heard about all this? How did you hear about all this?So I was in Nashville for the men at DC basketball tournament and we had twogames on Wednesday. We had our first game olmiss Georgia in the books whenwe started to hear rumbling, that there might be an announcement made that nofans would be allowed afte remajor of the Games and then sure enough. TheCommissioner of the SEC, Greg Sanky, got up on the FEC network, setbasically maythe announcement, no fans, but we would still have the game soThursday rolls around. I get up TOR shoot around. I was at Auburn and Lsushoot around. They weren't playing till Friday 'cause. They were among the topfour seeds in the tournament, and I was talking to some of the guys just sayinglike and how's this going to be have have you ever played in an empty arenaand they were just like you know. We don't know what to expect it. This isall just so crazy and I think that's the word that everyone should just keepusing it. This is just so crazy and by the time I made it back to the hotel. Ithink it was just before noon. I got attached from someone basically saying:Hey keep your eyes on twitter because I think everything's about to getcancelled, everything's about to get shut down, um and sure enough. Theannouncement started coming down. Of course, I guess I left out the hugepart of what happened in the NB A on Wednesday night. We were court sidedoing our game broadcast whend we saw the Wojbam when Wojanou at the MBA was,is pending their season, iven everything that happened in those gameson Wednesday night. So I was in Nashville when all of this was goingdown and we basically got sent home or we were told that we could go homepretty much immediately with with no...

...more sports happening with no moretournament Um. I in that moment that week that day, I would very much of theopinion that it was the absolute right decision just talking with some of theplayers and some of the coaches. We were all standing there like well. Ifthe risk is too high for the fans to be here, then the risk is too high foreverybody to be here and- and my first thought is the student athletes.Honestly, Heaven Forbid, you know I I would hate to have to be the one tohave to report on somebody coming down with the corona virus because they wereplaying. You know in a tournament game or on a basketball court, becausesomebody else had it a and I thought gosh, everybody's health and safetyjust has to be number one. We have to get these kids home and and away fromany potential threat. So I think everybody involved the SEC. Everybodymade the right decision Um what became crazier than was Thursday afternoonwhen the NC double a cancelled spring sport championships with softballbaseball and now, of course, there's a huge discussion about that. If thatwill hold, but obviously you- and I are talking a little bit in our catchupsession- it's not like this is a hurricane or a winter storm for forthose who live in areas that that deal with that. It's not like. We know whenthis is coming or when the peak is going to be or when it's going to getbetter or so we're kind of in a little bit of a holding pattern now for thenext couple of weeks and and maybe next couple of months and obviously nothaving sports stinks but having everybody in the best health and andmaking sure that we're in the best position to take care of those who aresick at the end of the day, I think is beyond the most important thing and, asyou said before, our hearts go out to the student athletes in particular theseniors I just cannot imagine going on this run with your team. It'syour senior season and then this happens. But at the same time, as yousaid, if, if your health is in danger,...

I I think everyone sees both sides, butit still sucks yeah. It's heartbreaking and it', certainly not like a an I've,been talking about this with a number of people, it's okay, to feel thatrange of emotion, it's okay to feel heartbroken and sad that there's nosports, it's okay to feel Gosh. Just awful for those seniors who are nevergoing to get to compete and an then Seeua tournament or be able to take thefloor, it was taken away from them so quickly. At the same time, it's alsookay to feel at peace, or maybe even grateful that these things have stoppedand people are not in a situation where they can get sick. I think this rangeof emotion is acceptable. It's not like you have to be on one side of thespectrum or the other. As far as you know wondering why things aren'thappening, or you know feeling bad for people all these things are okay, andit's just it's such a surreal time in our history right now, but at the endof the day, I have to think of the people around me and my loved ones andthose on my community, and if I had the choice, I would want everyone to be assafe as possible, and I think it's just so important to remember that. That'sall anybody's trying to do here is just be preventative and make sureeverybody's as safe as they can be, of course, and there are so many sides tothis story from the network side where you are to the ntaside to theschoolside, to the fan side too. Everyone that works concessions in thearenas like everyone is affected in multiple ways by this current situation. For you,it's such a weird thing to even say the words sports are cancelled. That isyour job. That is what you do. So what were your planned assignments movingforward before all of this unfolded? Yeah? So, of course, like I said I wasin Nationill, I was going to finish out the FEC men's tournament. Um We hadselection shows plan for Sunday and...

Monday for bout, the men and the womenUm most of my work kind of sender, centersaround the SEC and on the women's side, the game, Tock women, basketball team.There were the number one team in the country they had just run through theSEC tournament. They went undefeated ind, the SEC regular season and andthey were a huge favorite to win the national championship. So we were goingto follow any FEC team down the stretch on the women side, Mississippi StateKentucky really good as well, and then I was supposed to be on the schedule tocontinue to cover the NCA mens tournament as well. Obviously, theKentucky men, the Aber Men, the LS: U Men, all trying to make a run, there tTA National Championship and you know seet sixteen elet eight coverage, Um Wa,was going to be huge Um. so now everything just it's just weird is, Ithink, the word to to to use to explain it because it's just like it just feels like that. It just youblink and all of a sudden, it's gone, and it's something that you're just soused to having every single year that it's just so strange, like you, said tohear it's cancelled, something that's such a huge event that everybody justbuilds up to and and not just college sports like the masters and things likethat, they're suspended or cancelled, it's just it's crazy. So we'rebasically now just in in a holding pattern, just waiting Um. Obviously, ifno sports are being played for someone who covers college sports, there'snothing to cover Um. So I I'm just kind of sitting back and trying to observeeverything. Take everything in Um do what I can to. You know make sure thatwhen we can come back, we're in the best position possible and andobviously hoping that we can come back as soon as possible, because that willmean that hopefully, the whole corona virussituation has been conpained or or is looking up. But it's it's definitelya weird feeling. Knowing that we don't...

...know when any of this is going to comeback, it's super weird and it's a very fluid situation. I feel like every daysomething new comes out and, like you said you just you, don't have anythingelse to do, but just sit around and wait and figure out what to do next,but something that youare doing. I think it's really cool you're, trulytaking advantage of this time off. I saw your teat about how you're openingyour dens to people who are looking to get into the business, and I know youpersonally so I know how much you have to offer, but it's really nice for youto be willing to do that with strangers, because we've all been there before. Weknow what that's like yeah. I honestly was driving home from Nashville and Iwas thinking like what am I going to do for the next two three weeks like Likgenurally, I'm goingto go crazy like what what am I going to do and Istarted thinking about it and I was like o I'd really like to use my timein a way that can give back or will be beneficial to somebody else. I E I D TI don't want to sit here in three weeks and be like wow. I just Wach Nep Lakeevery single day, probably some days, but not every finday, so I just kind ohave that idea to put that out on Switter, I, I honestly remember being acollege student and thinking Gosh. I wish there was somebody that I couldjust like text or a manual that I could just read that had the answers to justthese dumb questions that I had when I was starting out. Like I had some ofthe dumis questions, I swear. I'm I'm trying to Havk some good questions too,but I had some dumb questions like Oh, I wonder what the silon reporters wearwhen they're at football games like what's the most comfortable thing towear or like when is it acceptable to you know, ask ad question an in suchand such situation? Just like Ooper, specific questions that I had no ideafrom preparation to. You know how to pack for for a tournament, you know howto talk to a coach like coach cow or something like that thing, but I justcouldn't even Fatom, so I figured you know why I'm going to be sitting here,I'm Ointa have some time, I'm sure I'll...

...get some DMS. I honestly was expectingmaybe like forty fifty DMS, and I woke up this morning with over two hundred.U I yeah it's great, though, like I'm so gladthat people, I guess felt like they couldreach out and ask these things, because I'm so happy to to be that person,hopefully maybe set people at East or to be able to answer a question thatmaybe they they didn't, have anybody back and- and I don't have all theanswers by any men, but if I can help it all if I coan help one person thatI'm happy to do it, I'm just hoping that everybody's going to be reallypatient with Yeu. Now, as I try to answer a two hundred plint DM becausethey're still coming in and I'm like trying to be eloquent as possible and really givethought out answers, but thy're they're coming in deatily, so hoping everybodywll tax, their patient with me, I'm going to help you Elyssa. Let's giveyou a headstart, you can tell your story here and then you can direct allof those people to this poncast. They can get the scoop in one place. Howabout that? That's a great idea! Where do what do you want t? Where do youwant me to start okay um? What was your first job out of college, which I knowwis not long ago, for you because you're still a young in yeah? It wasn't. It wasn't too long agofeels like a long time ago. That's for sure m. So my first job out of collegewas with the CBS affiliate in Columbia, South Carolina, I technically started working therebefore college. I started there as an inturn. Um did basically everythingthey asked me to do. I shot video for what is called Pase, what's called apaster in a newscast which is um just kind of video for a quick, twenty andEyby thirty second story between figur stories and it could have been. Youknow a car crash to a festival to something like that somethingnewsworthy Um I made copies. I printed...

...scripts. I did all those things for h acouple of years wile I was in college and I was superannoying so that kind ofturned into hey. Can I go shoot a story or can I do this and got to get my handwet and kind of d? A couple of different things: A couple of differentareas at the station Um, and then that turned into sort of helping the sportsdepartment doing sports stories, because that was always sort of what Iwanted to do. Um and then I tell people this all the time, myfirst real kind of full time. Job With that station came because I just askedfor it Um. I remember finding out that the weekend sport tanker was going toleave for another job and I said wo Gosh I've sort of been filling in alittle bit at this point, like maybe they'll, give me a shot at it. Likemaybe they'll. Let me do this job. Like I've been around, you know the worstthey can say is no. So I went to my news director and I said, Hey. You knowI heard Soand, so I was going to leave and I love a shot at you know evenproving that I could do this job or or arjitioning for this job, and she waslike okay. Yeah sounds good well something out, and I was like wait what so I in a very trange situation. Ifound myself signing a contract for my first TV job about two weeks before Istarted my senior year of college m, so I scheduled all my classes for my firstsemester, my senior year to be done at like two o'clock and then I'd go to thestation. You know at three o'clock and work until eleven eleven o'clock newsor whatever they needed me to do Um. So I did that for basically a year mylast year of school, I almost considered just not going back toschool because I was like Oh, I already have the first job, I git's fine andthen my mom and dad a ere like no you're you're going to finish school.You have to graduate alita yeah, so tha...

...lauted Aboud ten seconds that wholedream of. Maybe I don't have to go back to class Um, so that was certainly anexperience. But if I can take anything from that experience and if I tookanything fom in it was it doesn't hurt to. As because I thought I was going towalk in there and genuinely KINDOF get locked at, and I ended up leaving withmy first T v Job and it went about as well as it could have possibly gonethat as far as that situation, but I got really lucky belt very, like rightplace at the right time, but at the same time m I will say during the timethat I spent there leading up to that. I did make myself very available and Ifelt like my faces are always in front of the bosses. What do you need allthat stuff? So I'm always a big proponent of making yourself available,and you never know you were such a good example of just asking it's just. Asyou said, the worst she would have said was no and you'd be like okay, move andright along. That's all I mean we face nose all the time and you just figureout a way around it, and even if she would have said no, you still wouldhave gotten a job whether af it was after graduation or you could have keptfilling it and getting more reps and making a reel like there are waysaround no yeah. There's, there's always another option, and I know- and youknow in this business it's hard when you hear a lot of nose Um. I wasfortunate that in some of my first experiences I got a couple of yesesearly on, but I certainly got a lot of nose after that, after I was trying to,you know, grow out of that situation and look for the next one m. The Nosare always there, but, like you said, I mean it's just a matter of Tangpersistent and you know exploring those opportunities and making sure that youdon't lose yourself or your self value in the process as well, because thatthat can be hard to do, especially in this pusiness. That's totally totallyhard to do because when you are in a...

...public position where people arewatching you, when you get a no it's, if you don't have high self esteem, ifyou were not confitent in yourself and you don't hold other people's opinionshigh, which all of those things are things that most of us struggle with,then the nose are the worst. The nose stick hard and I've got nose beforewhere I'm like. Okay, I guess I'm not meant to do this. Yeah, that's yeah,Yep, okay, Yep, I'm just going to give up, and- and you know you eventuallystop having a pity party and you move on. But I think the point is there islife after no, so don't live and die by nose, absolutely and and there's lifeafter those bosses or those people who tell you that you're not good at yourjob or that you're, not you know doing enough or whatever it is. Everything isso subjective and you're, born to meet people and they're going to encounterpeople who don't just tell you? No, they may tell you yes, but then thenext day they may tell you hey, you're, really bad at this or whatever it is,and I had several people in my career telling me you're really Gad at this orI don't like how the way you do things- and you know you can take that with agrain of salt. You can take it to heart depending on you know what the feedbackis, but there's also always going to be people out there who don't like you andthey're going to let you know that, and it's also important to hang onto your sense of selfthroughout those moments too. I think what would you say is the best piece ofadvice that you've ever received, one of the earliest yeah there's justso many there's so many great pieces of advice that I've gotten. I think one ofthe earliest pieces of advice that I would give in in the local news,business or T V business in general Um was to be nice, but be careful witheverybody in a sense that everyone knows everyone, and I didn't reallyunderstand what that meant. Until I was...

...in the business and entwitter and allthose things I feel like between you and I even it would be very easy to toget to like motion sports media people who are like on social media or whoexists like between your network and between my notwords, like the thingsyou and I have done, are so different, but so similar, and we know each otherhat like I feel like. If I wanted anybody in the hockey world like youwould be the person that I would go to and you might be able to connect me andif you you know years ago, were rude to somebody or mean to somebody ordisrespectubl to somebody. There's a really good chance, you're going to seethat person again and not to say, be nice to people, because you might needthem like three hunre o people, one because it it's not hard to be nice topeople like you should just be nice to people. But it's such a small businessand what goes around I think kindo comes around and those who have beensupportive and those who are nice. I think end up going the furthest,because you're able to really just build this hive and this network ofpeople who want to see Yo succeed and it's a mutual thing d and the peoplewho have always been negative and the people who you know throughout their career aren't verysupportive of others. Those are the people that I tend to kind of just ignore, because you can'treally have that sort of negativity in your life, but the people who aresupportive. The people who are there for you. I think everybody is able toreally build each other up and a rising tide raises all ships, and that's oneof the things that I think I stick on. It's just treating everybody the way. Ihope they would treat me even if they weren't always great to me, because youalways see everybody again at some point that goes deeper on so manydifferent levels like not only do you want to be nice to people in generaljust because you should be a nice human, but also you never know who is watchingI've gotten jobs before where I didn't even know this person was payingattention to my work and they reached out, and I got a job because of that,so you never know who's watching a b.

It goes to the athlete level because itmakes your job easier. When you relate to athletes on a human level becausethey are also human beings, you don't put them on a pedal. Still, you don'ttreat them any different, because everyone is a human and you get betterstories that way you get better responses. It makes your job easier,also you're, forming real relationships with these athletes, which is awesomean of itself, so being kind, goes a long way for many many reasons, manyreasons being kind of paying attention too. Like you just said, I mean whwhether it's athletes or coachis, treating them like they're, a humanbeing which they are, I think is, is really lost on a lot of people, becauseI know I'm sure you've experienced it. I got a lot of people hore like Oh, mygosh. What's it like, you know being around so and so like you must be socool and I'm like yeah. I mean they're, really talented or they're, really goodat what they do. But, like my favorite thing to talk about with coaches, it'slike Theyr, grandkids or you know, they're fishing tripast summer, orthings like that and those are the. Those are the moment when you realize,like this. Business is really cool, because you get te bond with somereally cool people and learn things from some really interesting people whoare a lot deeper than just basketball or football or whatever. It isobviously that's a part of who they are Um, but you know if, if people justconstantly askd me questions all day about, you know what it's like to toanchor a show or whatever I'd be like Gosh, I'm Kinda tired of talking aboutthis all the time you know like your best friends are the ones you don'treally talk about workwith, all the time so yeah I mean, like you said, thehuman element is, is so important so important to not forget that that's abig part of it. That's actually one of my favorite parts of being in this role, because, especiallywhen I was working for the Rangers, I got so many fan questions about so manyplayers like what they're like in real...

...life, and I felt like I always had thesame or a similar response for all of them, because it's true, I'm like wellthey're, really cool people like they're, really awesome, guys like you,would love being friends with them, because x, Iz or he's a great dad, andhe has three girls and like therre. There were always other things to talkabout, and I always felt lucky that I had the privilege to know them as ahuman, where everyone else knew them as a hockey player first or an athlete, ora coach first and we're kind of privileged that we kind of get that weget to go that extra step of like knowing how great of a human being theyare, which is really cool. Isn't that funny, though, it's like when somebodyasks you that your first reaction isn't just like. Oh yeah, like he's thereason why they won those last ten games, you're you're got reahe's agreat dad, which, like is just the best it's the best it is. It is so you'vebeen with S E C network n ESPN. For how long now has it been two years M,almost two years? Okay, okay! So what has your experience been like with them?I've heard that you're never really ready for e S. PN you Kinda just likejump in and figure it out. As you go sorto yeah M. I don't think anythingcan really prepare you for just thote for letters honestly like it was alwaysjust such a I. It kind of felt like an unattainable dream honestly because,like everybody at e, sp n and just felt so like untouchable and like Oh man,like maybe I'll, be there in twenty year who knows and when the time came,it was just like. Oh my gosh I'm doing this now. What do I do? Um Heexperienced, though, has been so great Um as soon as I started, working for eSP NESEC network, not just on social media, but an email to people fromBristol or Charlotte. They all started reaching out offering you know. Whatcan I do? How can I help with the transition? Even in the SEC, I meanit's, it's really like a big family...

...like they know. If you work for the FECnetwork Um, you know we're all trying to achieve in a way the same goal. Youknow you've got these players and coaches who are trying to put theirbest wootforword, whether it you know from a personal level or an atleticlevel, and we're just trying to tell their stories and you know, show themoff to the world. So it's it's really cool to be given the opportunity to beable to have those sit down conversations with with really greatcollegiate athletes and really great collegiate coaches. Um. It's been adream. Honestly. It was always kind of a dream for me to be able to work for anetwork like this and becovering sports from thiss angll Um. I've learned a time, a lot of thingsthat went into live, broadcast, forsporting events, and things likethat that I just had no idea and- and I I remember watching, especially when Iwas a local reporter- I remember watching sometimes o game broadcastindbeing like. Oh my gosh like. Why is this happening or like? Why are theysaying this? And now I'm on the other side of things and I'm like okay yeah makes a lot more sense. It's not aseasy as it looks, especially like for the playby playing color analyst. Imean it is an intense job and the amount of preparation that goes intojust one live broadcast is pretty incredible and then you look at a weeklike you know, we were supposed to have this week with, however many games inin a tournament atmosphere, I mean I was supposed to have six games in inthree days, so preparing for that was like okay. I never done anything likethis before, but as with anything, you know the more raps, the better you getand and it's it's been such a great experience working at e Spn at the SECnetwork. Everybody is so supportive and I I do truly feel very blessed. I Ihope I can continue to do that for a long time. Well. First of all I wouldlike to personally speak to whoever thinks any of those jobs you justmentioned are easy, because that is not...

...the case. If you think that's the case,come find me, and I will tell you all the people that I know who will helpyou whoill explain why and how it not easy. Secondly, I'm so proud of you andI'm so happy for you. I actually forgot to mention at the top to tell peoplehow we even know each other in the first place Elisa and I worked together,sort of and Jackson Al, we both covere the Jagars togother. I covered it forradio and she was there for a local T v Station and then we both went ourseparate ways. She went off to s Pano. I was in New York and M. It's just beencool to stay in touch, so please know that I watch from afar and I'm like aproud little mamma there, I'm just so happy for Instagram, because I feelike,I know your life Om, insogram and as soon as you got that little poppy, Iwas like seling everone pictures and tey're like. Why are you showing methis dog and I'm like 'cause? It's my friend's dog and it's excuter, anrun'sdog nocial media? No, but I ma iouslylooked back on that time when we were in Jacksonville and I feel like, likeyou had been into business a couple more years than me at that point, but II was still pretty Gren and I just remember seeing you and being like. Ohmy God, there's another female. Thank God ndthen! You left me and I was a littlefalty at first, but I was so Appyo and soing evything. That e did after thatwas just incredible, like Yo were always like a role model for me when Iwas in Dackanvill, that's really sweet. Well, I'm glad that our paths crossedthen, and we have stayed in touch so I want to get into personal life, becauseI think that that is an interesting topic. When you work in a sports world,everyone balances personal life with a demanding career in a different way,especially for you at such a young age. So how do you handle that? How do youfind your balance? It's definitely been a challenge, and it's something that Iso I don't want to say. Well, maybe...

...struggle with. Is the right word um?It's it's definitely a balance, because you- and I have talked about this- it'svery easy to just put your head down and go to work and in a lot of ways.That's what you have to do in this business or you're not going to make it.You have to put in sometimes twenty two twenty three hours a day, and Iremember not sleeping a lot early in my career and and there's time during theseason where I don't sleep, a lot now m. That doesn't mean, though, that youhave to shut everything off. I know that I can look back over the ups anddowns of my career so far and the time that I wasn't taking care of myself inthe time that I wasn't putting the effort in to try to make sure that Iwas physically and mentally sound was when doing my job with the hardest andin a job like this, where it's very, very evident, if you're, not on yourgame or if you're, not having your best performance taking care of yourself is,is very its key Um. One of the things that I have learned over. The lastcouple of years, um is kind of a habit that keep me saneand one of those things is going to the gym regularly. I grew up playing sports.I was always on a field or a track or something, and I got to college and forthe first time in my life I I wasn't an athlete I wasn't playing sports. Itried to go to the gym, but didn't really understand how to work. JYMequipment 'cause. I had just never done it in my life. Um Short time later ended up findingcrossit and I love craftnit. I did it for the next four or five years throughmy time in Jacksonville and I loved it um towards the end of my time inFlorida and then in my move up to Charlotte things were just so busy andI was trying to focus on how do I balance this new job and not looks likean idiot, and you know not leave anything behind and just make sure I'mdoing everything I need to do, and I...

...neglected that area of my life Um. It wasn't until probably six sevenmonths into it at I was just like. I just don't feel like myself like, Ijust don't feel right. I felt like my work performance and everything was ata point where I had enough time under my belt that I was like okay, I feellike I'm still doing fine, but when I get home at night I was just like. Idon't feel right like it just something off, and I came to the conclusion thatI wasn't really eating very well and I wasn't taking care of my body and Iwasn't in the gym. So I made an effort to really get back to that, and I've been back sort of doing that Gosh.I I don't even know how long it's been that that was probably a realization. Icame to last football teason right before last football season and sincethen o know, I got back in across it and started doing orange thery and madesure that when I was on the road and traveling that I was trying to work outas much as possible because it was just a mental, clear thing for me Um. So I think there's definitely somethingto be said for early in your career. People will tell you well you don'thave time to do anything else. Well, if you don't do anything else and youdon't take care of yourself, it's going to start showing, so I'm always biginto that. It doesn't mean like treat yourself every single day. Obviously,like you Ka, like doin all now, like you, son, op, O timeit, but for me itwas making sure I got in you know forty five minutes or an hour of exercise.You know five out of seven days a week and I have to really stick to that andand be good about that, and that obviously carries into you know likeyou're dating life and your personal life. If you're happy everything'sKINDOF fallowing a little bit better, I'm so glad you runt up dating Olisa K. don't why I want to bring up this specificallywith you, because jating when you are traveling all thetime you J, you don't have time and we...

...are lucky that we live in a day and agewhere social media, indating APPS exist and that's awesome, but sometimesthey're, weird and sketchy, and it doesn't always work out. But you have areally lovely story of how you met your boyfriend on line right. It's crazy, yeah! I um G. I rememberwhen I moved to Charlotte. I had been single for a good amount of at thatpoint and I was like you know what nobody knows who I am in this placelike you know how it is when we were in Jacksonvillage, a small town, I'm likeif I get on a dating up like I don't know if it's weird, if like I'm in likea media member and people, see it like, I just don't really know what t whatthe right wrong is in that situation. So I just kind of boid od. It Um so when I got to Charlotte, I was likeI'm a download some of these dating absency and it was awful like I went onseveral days and it was just like it was terrible. I just was thinking aboutwork. The whole time I was like can't wait to just to go back to workwhatever, and I would lie too, like I never put it on my dating profile, likethat. I work for S P, N, or that I was a sports reporter or whatever. It isbecause I feel like men, it's harder to sort of fiter out.What's real and what's not once you kind of put that that's what you do onyour dating profile. So totally that's exactly what I did. I perpocy 'cause,that's how I met my boyfriend on a dating up on Hinch when I was laving anew orer. Did you write what career did you put down? I put that I was ajournalist and okay. The pictures I used were personal. None of them. Inever had a mike in my hand. I was never at the raio working for theRangers at the time I was. I was the same as you or I didn't want to meetsomeone, and have them only went to talk to me because ai work for theRangers or B I worked in sports. Yes, okay, so tha make tat thing M. I wasn'tas successful though, as you wore...

...learly on the dating up, so I got offof that and literally it's just like the craziest story, so I think it wasDecember would have been December. Twenty eighteen um right, t's, yeah,twenty to Ge Twenty twenty. Now, okay, let me get my year right, Um, one of my former coworker to you knowin Jacabell his name was Mike Um. He texted me one day and he was just likehey Um. I have a friend who has a crusher on you, and I was like awesome.Is this high school like? What do you want me to do with that? Like W? Idon't now yo like the Wa Yo, O Tryi Shoul do with the Simimation, but likeellons Bank Iin. So much. Thank you. I appreciateyou like I don't know so we Kinda had a laugh about it and that was it and thenabout a week later. I was doing that thing where you know like I'm in myapartment and I'm thrown through Insogram, and I see picture that thisguy that I followed for a while had posted and his name was trevor and hewas a be reporter for the Tampa Bay Book and I followed him because, as youknow, when we were in Jacksonville, the box and t e Jag did joint practices acouple of times and the way this business works. You just follow peopleon social media, even if you maybe haven't met them before so I'm crollingthrough Instagram, and I see that he's posted a picture N. I'm like. Oh,that's that guy follow on whater the buck. Finlyen really like know what helooks like I've never met him. I just followed him because of buck stuffcould click on his page and I start going through and I was like. Okay, youknow wonder whei situated, is I tex my friend Mike the same like thatintected me the week before, because I knew that Mike knew him and I basicallysaid something along Lin like hey. What do you know about this Trevor Guy andhe said well he's one of my great friends whye. He said I don't know I'mjust crawling through and I liked what...

I saw you know be ant to got it and hegoes withot crazy, 'cause. That's the guy that tested me about you a week agoand said that he eat a crush on you, an I'm like my Gosh Walikei as rain goodthing that has ever happened, so we reached out to the same person abouteach other like unbro unknowing within like a week or so um. So then, at thatpoint Mike, like all right. Well like it's time to stop messing around likenow, we have to actually try to figure out what's going on here, so he h.basically let trever know hey manlike. You should h you should reach out,because Tsthis might be a thing and Um, I remember, being on the deck for awomen's basketball show when I got the Indebram D, my first and Rima, and thenthe rest was history. We kind of talked back ind forth and then, since it was along distance thing I was in Charlotte, he was in Tampa. I flew down a coupleof weeks later 'cause I was like all right like is this going to be a wasteof my time like? I don't want to text you for a month if this is if this isgoing to be like something silly and it wasn't, and here we are now he lives inCharlotte, twenty twenty twenty nineteen acialmedia dating is alive and well it is it is it's so funny how people either get embarrassed about itor they embrace it, and I hope that you embrace it kind of sounds like you doin the beginning, when, when my boyfriend, I started dating he heedthat we met on a dating at because, in your mind, when you meet an amazingperson, you want it to be like oh well, I he picked up like I dropped a appleat the grocery store and he picked it up for me and it was love at firstsight, like you wantit, to be Lan, this really cool story, and then it's notand I've goten over that I don't care, because we we never would have crossedpaths any other way. We wouldn't have...

...met in New York City any other way. Wedidn't have many common threads between each other Um. So that's that's justthe way it is and M, I just say, cheers to dating online and dating in general,especially when you're so busy all the time if it works, it works exactly, andI mean like how how what for you, I'm sure, like you, don't necessarily getoff at five o'clock every night, like you, don't have time to do datingreally the Conventional Way Al so yeah I mean it's like. If an APP is whatworks. It's like Matchdo, com or Ehamony, whatever has been aroundforever like it's, not so deperaded. Just on your one, soly like at firstlike he said at first, it was weird I was like yeah we met because hemessaged me on an trill at. I was like you know what Iwas kind of a cool story,how it all went down. So I it's good, I'm so happy for you guys, that's soGreatso. The main reason I'm doing this show really isbecause of thissisterhood that exists in a sports world with women, and I think that ourrelationship speaks to that too, and when we're traveling and we'renetworking for our jobs, we really are meeting amazing, like minded people,and then we stay in touch and we support each other and that's just areally cool thing. So I want you to leave us with this. I want you to giveme a girl, a female who inspires you, that you think I should have on theshow. Oh Man, okay, this one's easy. Her name isChris Budton she's a reporter for ESPN, and she is a mom of two h t she'ssuperactive on Instagram as far as like documenting life as a mom and life as aworking e, SP, n mom- and I say this tor every time we meet and have coffeeor have lunch or Anyhamili E. I don't know how you do it like. You make mefeel like it's possible to live this life, but I at the same time, don'tknow how you do it and she's also just...

...got this crac sense of humor and justgreat an zest for life. She grated her job she's, a great mom and I she'ssuperwoman too fantastic. I love that I do follow her, so I'm very aware of howamazing she is. I don't know her personally, but I will definitely reachoutalovyeahon m ban the network. Let's do it Thankyou, so much Alisa. I reallyappreciate it. I know that you're on lock down Um for the foreseeable future,but I hope you answer all those dns and find a way to annoy your boyfriendwhile you're Um sitting around I'm looking for so anyways. If anyonehas any idea for how I can continue to annoy him, please let me know go't, yougirl. I hope you enjoyed our conversation asmuch as I did. I also hope everyone stays safe during this time. Pleaseremain healthy, be nice to each other and try not to spread germs. Also, I amsending positive vibes that sports and the rest of the world gets back up andrunning very, very soon, please rate review and subscribe and make sure youleave a comment. So I know what you enjoyed most about this episode. Thanksfor listening.

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